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Change of Name: Coq –> The Rocq Prover

35 pointsby luuover 1 year ago

17 comments

ykmover 1 year ago
Reminds me of a time when i created a library to work with iterators in lisp, inadvertently naming it cl-iterators[0], as far as the naming convention of common lisp libraries went at that time. Some folks(including me!) on reddit had lots of fun with the unfortunate name.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ykm&#x2F;critter">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ykm&#x2F;critter</a>
truculentover 1 year ago
I don’t have an opinion on the decision to change, but it’s a shame they switched to one so similar to <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.roc-lang.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.roc-lang.org&#x2F;</a><p>I assume avoiding confusion is part of the motivation for adding the stylised “q” at the end, but even so…
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mablopouleover 1 year ago
What a sad day if it&#x27;s acted, as a native french I always got a little chuckle that there is a slight comeuppance for the fact that &#x27;bit&#x27; (and also &#x27;byte&#x27; in a lesser measure) is pronounced exactly like &#x27;bite&#x27;, which is french for &#x27;cock&#x27;.<p>It&#x27;s harmless fun, and also a taste of the cultural hegemony the non-anglosaxon world get (I realize the irony of saying that as a french).
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logicchainsover 1 year ago
Seems Cockroach DB has proven more resilient to name shaming.
shutupnerd0000over 1 year ago
I love how the github is a wall of unrelated text to justify renaming away from Cock
mrkeenover 1 year ago
I hope Thierry Rocquand gave his blessing
IshKebabover 1 year ago
Kind of telling that they don&#x27;t give a reason. Also &quot;The Rocq Prover&quot; is a terrible name. If you&#x27;re going to go to the effort of renaming at least come up with a good one!<p>I wonder if anyone has tried to rename Git (roughly equivalent to &#x27;asshole&#x27; in American).
logicchainsover 1 year ago
The new name sounds related to AMD&#x27;s ROCm.
hackandthinkover 1 year ago
It is worth reading the entire roadmap. These are all comprehensible and important points.<p>Coq seems to be a perpetual construction site.<p>Ltac -&gt; Ltac2<p>Prop -&gt; Sprop<p>On the other hand, my personal gimmicks a few years ago only touched on a tiny range of functions of the then Coq.<p>Therefore, I assume that most Coq users see more stability than you would think.
yaantcover 1 year ago
The page summarizing the considered new names and their pros&#x2F;cons is interesting: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;coq&#x2F;coq&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Alternative-names">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;coq&#x2F;coq&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Alternative-names</a><p>Naming is hard...
tucnakover 1 year ago
Why now? The innuendo has grown to be unbearable?
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thefzover 1 year ago
English is not the only language.<p>America is not the only country, and theirs is not the only culture.<p>Problem solved by pronouncing it &quot;cee-oh-queue&quot;.<p>The idiots won again.
Dig1tover 1 year ago
Why?
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medo-bearover 1 year ago
Should rename it to Poissy
bnecessityover 1 year ago
&gt; 069-coq-roadmap.md
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paldepind2over 1 year ago
Fantastic news! Great to see that they&#x27;ve finally decided on a new and better name which the project most certainly deserves.
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ixaxaarover 1 year ago
Cool, now I can recommend it to female devs to learn, without anyone getting uncomfortable.<p>With the growth of lean, I suppose its time to get more serious in popularizing and attracting community instead of trying to pursue harmless chuckles.<p>Edit:<p>And I immediately get labeled as a &quot;tranny protector&quot;. I&#x27;m not from the western world and we do not have the same cultural issues.<p>What I meant is, in a world where English nevertheless dominates as a common language by far, perhaps naming matters in the English context much more than any other language, particularly when building something for everyone.<p>Edit Edit:<p>I mean I had no idea there were such strong feelings of what i suppose is being perceived as American&#x2F;English cultural interference that&#x27;s felt so strongly by the French.<p>Maybe that&#x27;s what Africans feel who were colonised by French Coqs (national animal)?<p>I now completely agree it is a brilliant idea to name something &quot;cunt&quot; in honour of Louvre Cuntadoodleur. :D
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