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TU Berlin Scientists Hack Tesla Autopilot and Discover Secret Elon-Mode

113 pointsby thenaturalistover 1 year ago

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chmod775over 1 year ago
&gt; TU Berlin Scientists Hack Tesla Autopilot and Discover Secret Elon-Mode<p>They merely confirmed it exists as they went about other things. This wasn&#x27;t the bulk of their work at all.<p>Terrible headline and article.<p>Better to watch the original talk: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38785553">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38785553</a>
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Havocover 1 year ago
Seems to contain 3 highlights:<p>They got a PCB&#x2F;component from the US.<p>1) Elon mode per article is handfree minus the keep your hands on wheel stuff. Article clearly says &quot;confirming&quot; existence, rather than claiming this is a new discovery<p>2) They pulled video off the component - random vid from whatever the components past life in US was I guess<p>3) They got some sort of insight into what sort of data is streamed back to tesla HQ. No details<p>They appear to have pulled this off an unspecified PCB component out of a tesla using &quot;600 EUR&quot; worth of gear, which to me suggests Tesla stores stuff locally unencrypted. Not an issue I guess but still interesting
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upon_drumheadover 1 year ago
Previously discovered in June of 2023<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2023&#x2F;6&#x2F;20&#x2F;23767041&#x2F;tesla-hacker-elon-mode-hands-free-full-self-driving-autopilot" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2023&#x2F;6&#x2F;20&#x2F;23767041&#x2F;tesla-hacker-elo...</a>
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thenaturalistover 1 year ago
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calin2kover 1 year ago
can be rewatched here <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;streaming.media.ccc.de&#x2F;37c3&#x2F;relive&#x2F;12144" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;streaming.media.ccc.de&#x2F;37c3&#x2F;relive&#x2F;12144</a>
laidoffamazonover 1 year ago
Doesn’t surprise me, I had an ex-autopilot coworker who said he used to invite engineers to his house on the weekend to deploy and fix nightly versions on his own car.
sebazzzover 1 year ago
How would one even protect against voltage glitching? It is out of spec for the processor, so all bets are off.
rossdavidhover 1 year ago
Interesting, but:<p>1) it&#x27;s his company, so did anyone doubt that he could have it work differently if he wanted? only interesting thing would be that you can hack your own Tesla to work this way, but it&#x27;s not like this would be very common.<p>2) the stored data is interesting, but probably not as alarming as what your smartphone company has available<p>I&#x27;m not saying it&#x27;s not interesting, I&#x27;m just saying it&#x27;s not as interesting as lots of other stuff about both Tesla and lots of other tech companies, that we already knew.
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