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Possible Meissner effect near room temperature: copper-substituted lead apatite

729 pointsby zaikunzhangover 1 year ago

28 comments

sanxiynover 1 year ago
Some background: there were two Chinese teams publicly pursuing LK-99-derived room temperature superconductor, which I arbitrarily named &quot;north China team&quot; and &quot;south China team&quot;. North China team was headed by Hongyang Wang (who lives in Beijing) and south China team was headed by Yao Yao (who lives in Guangzhou). They used different synthesis and different analysis, i.e. north China team used hydrothermal synthesis and used SQUID measurement, while south China team used solid state synthesis and used EPR measurement.<p>This is a joint paper of both teams. They reproduced results of each other (this is unclear in the paper, but stated in their behind-the-scene posts) and measured a clear sign of superconductivity. It is &quot;near room temperature&quot;, because they are sure about 250 K (hence &quot;near&quot;), but not sure about 300 K. As for &quot;possible&quot;, the behind-the-scene post makes it clear it is false modesty.<p>If you are interested, you definitely want to read behind-the-scene posts. Read them here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.zhihu.com&#x2F;question&#x2F;637763289" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.zhihu.com&#x2F;question&#x2F;637763289</a> (they are in Chinese). Hongyang Wang is 真可爱呆 and Yao Yao is 洗芝溪.
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ziofillover 1 year ago
250K is -23C, or -9F, I.e. like a cold winter day. That’s really almost room temperature!
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Havocover 1 year ago
What encourages me on this is that we just need a single instance to pan out. Just one. And I get the sense that we’re getting closer each year.
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virgildotcodesover 1 year ago
Link to a picture of a sample floating beneath a magnet: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nitter.net&#x2F;pronounced_kyle&#x2F;status&#x2F;1742725029450916111#m" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nitter.net&#x2F;pronounced_kyle&#x2F;status&#x2F;174272502945091611...</a>
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londons_exploreover 1 year ago
If I am understanding correctly, this &#x27;hysteresis&#x27; effect could also be caused by tiny bits of iron contamination in the sample?
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jmward01over 1 year ago
Until Anton Petrov does a video on this it isn&#x27;t real.
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tim333over 1 year ago
Having followed the LK99 saga a bit it seems the visual appearance of the proper Meissner effect floating above the magnet and holding in a different position if you prod it (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;F9ukYM4cSOk?t=11" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;F9ukYM4cSOk?t=11</a>) looks very different to the diamagnetic stuff LK99 did - one end touching the magnet and wobbling a bit.<p>Until they show a video looking like the above count my skepical.
t0mkover 1 year ago
I&#x27;m in Finland now and it&#x27;s -30 C (~-243 K). I could mag-levitate to work if I had copper-substituted lead apatite shoes.
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turing_completeover 1 year ago
I want to believe. I really do.
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httpzover 1 year ago
250K is -23.15°C. I happened to search Moscow weather today and it&#x27;s -23°C ~ -26°C.<p>So not quite room temperature but it&#x27;s outside temperature in some cities.
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codeulikeover 1 year ago
Its nice that all the major players seem to recognise that its better to do this sort of science in the open.
spacecity1971over 1 year ago
Great to see research continuing on this particular path.
sciencecomm24over 1 year ago
Interview with the lead author of the paper: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sciencecast.org&#x2F;casts&#x2F;u1mlp8tkn7w4" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sciencecast.org&#x2F;casts&#x2F;u1mlp8tkn7w4</a>
matheweisover 1 year ago
Wasn’t LK-99 a copper doped lead apatite? Is this different?
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selimthegrimover 1 year ago
There’s a good sciencecast discussion of this pre-print with one of the authors and a couple other physicists including Victor Galitski at UMD<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sciencecast.org&#x2F;casts&#x2F;u1mlp8tkn7w4" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sciencecast.org&#x2F;casts&#x2F;u1mlp8tkn7w4</a>
CatWChainsawover 1 year ago
Christ. 2024 really coming in hot, we get a 7.6 magnitude earthquake on day 1, bombings killing over 100 people on day 2, and this shit again on day 3.
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t0mkover 1 year ago
I&#x27;m in Finland now and it&#x27;s -30 C (-243 K). I could mag-levitate to work if I had proper superconductor shoes.
jonathan_obergover 1 year ago
Ice broke last year … this may not be the one, nor maybe the next dozen materials but seems like we are on the right glide path now.<p>&lt;crosses fingers&gt;
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roomeyover 1 year ago
Anyone got a link to a good forum tracking this?
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laserbeamover 1 year ago
1. Here we go again, right?<p>2. Is this still a ceramic (therefore impossible to make into wires), right?
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MadnessASAPover 1 year ago
So they&#x27;ve possibly discovered a material wlthat may have a property that could be indicative of superconductivity at room temperature? It&#x27;s a shame I don&#x27;t have any popcorn handy.<p>I do however appreciate their dedication to not putting the word superconductor in the title.
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m3kw9over 1 year ago
Anyone feel this is going in circles?
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pyinstallwoesover 1 year ago
The skepticism is laudable. The pessimism is laughable. The hindsight is predictable.<p>In the skies, they streak, these UAPs, so sleek, A dance of lights, TR-3B secrets they keep. At the edge of science, a silent peak, Superconductivity at psyop strength, not for the meek.<p>Whispers of tech, beyond our grasp, a sign, In the shadow of stars, conspiracies align. Truth obscured, in a skeptic&#x27;s design, But in hindsight&#x27;s glow, the patterns entwine.
admissionsguyover 1 year ago
This stuff is so 2023
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penjellyover 1 year ago
got a bit frenzied by the last superconductor drop, gonna sit this one out
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hakkikonuover 1 year ago
here we go again
lamontcgover 1 year ago
We&#x27;re really taking this bullshit seriously again?
andrewp123over 1 year ago
Not this again.