TE
TechEcho
Home24h TopNewestBestAskShowJobs
GitHubTwitter
Home

TechEcho

A tech news platform built with Next.js, providing global tech news and discussions.

GitHubTwitter

Home

HomeNewestBestAskShowJobs

Resources

HackerNews APIOriginal HackerNewsNext.js

© 2025 TechEcho. All rights reserved.

Birb and Fossil: An RSS Revival?

49 pointsby tkelloggover 1 year ago

9 comments

082349872349872over 1 year ago
&gt; <i>notorious for sticking with chronologically-ordered timelines, so unless you have time to look at every single post, you’ll likely miss something.</i><p>The value of RSS to me is getting everything in chronological order, so I (not some algo) can throw 99% of it away, unread.<p>(and if I do want to go back and look at something I&#x27;d skipped without reading, it&#x27;s easily findable, searchable by keyword or at least still there in the &quot;read&quot; list, next to all the things that were temporally close)
评论 #38877216 未加载
评论 #38879979 未加载
评论 #38880150 未加载
Gormoover 1 year ago
The whole &quot;death of RSS&quot; idea seems like a strange perspective. RSS&#x2F;Atom never went away, and nothing has replaced their use case for syndicating content.<p>To the author&#x27;s point, it&#x27;s just that a lot of mass-market consumption of web content for the past decade or so has been on walled-garden platforms that never offered syndication in the first place.<p>But even there, I think the article is overstating things -- it implies that Reddit, HN, Medium, and Substack have only recently begun offering RSS feeds, but these have never <i>not</i> offered RSS feeds (and HN has always had a native top-level article feed, even if the 3rd-party solution is more extensive). Even YouTube has always offered RSS feeds (albeit without enclosures, so they can&#x27;t be used as podcast feeds -- but Odysee, a web frontend to LBRY which is gaining traction against YouTube <i>does</i> offer feeds with enclosures).<p>I guess this application is a good solution for people who want to follow syndicated content via Mastodon, but it should be pointed out that the traditional model of using standalone RSS readers never went away -- when Google Reader was shut down, the void was quickly filled with a variety of solutions like TinyTinyRSS, MiniFlux, Feedly, Inoreader, etc.<p>I personally use TinyTinyRSS, with Liferea as a desktop client, as my primary interface to all of the blogs, podcasts, subreddits, and YouTube channels I read, along with aggregators like HN and Lobsters. I&#x27;ve been using this solution for over 10 years now; nothing has ever stopped working and none of the sites ever pulled back from publishing feeds.
评论 #38884647 未加载
canpolatover 1 year ago
I always thought, the &quot;correct&quot; way of doing this was the other way around: the RSS reader would implement ActivityPub so you could &quot;toot&quot; from within you RSS client. It would perhaps attempt to collect other &quot;toot&quot;s about the same link, facilitating a discussion (and keeping everything at one place). But I think this is the next best thing, especially for those feeds you tend to share on the social networks (I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s feasible to reproduce the RSS reader following with this).
评论 #38878762 未加载
评论 #38877860 未加载
评论 #38882118 未加载
评论 #38883841 未加载
0xEFover 1 year ago
Stop trying to make Mastodon be Twitter. If that&#x27;s what you want, go use Twitter. I don&#x27;t get this mentality of &quot;I like X, but I don&#x27;t want to use X, so imma go turn Y into X&quot; some devs seem to have. Chronological ordering is a fair and balanced choice for media presentation. Playing into people&#x27;s FOMO is what got the Internet into the rat&#x27;s nest of algorithmically driven problematic feeds in the first place.
评论 #38879803 未加载
评论 #38879033 未加载
评论 #38878812 未加载
评论 #38877618 未加载
评论 #38879239 未加载
评论 #38885772 未加载
评论 #38880349 未加载
self_awarenessover 1 year ago
Name clash with an already popular open-source project: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fossil-scm.org&#x2F;home&#x2F;doc&#x2F;trunk&#x2F;www&#x2F;index.wiki" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fossil-scm.org&#x2F;home&#x2F;doc&#x2F;trunk&#x2F;www&#x2F;index.wiki</a>
评论 #38883443 未加载
评论 #38878435 未加载
评论 #38881845 未加载
评论 #38879901 未加载
lucideerover 1 year ago
People like RSS because it&#x27;s not algorithmic. People like Mastodon because it&#x27;s not algorithmic.<p>What I&#x27;m mainly curious about here is what drew this author to these two technologies in the first place? What&#x27;s the hook for them?<p>---<p>Subjective aside: before I read the line on algorithms &amp; the HN comments bemoaning the same, I was already very turned off by the awful AI header image. Until tools like Dall-E, &amp;c. get to the point where they can reliably generate images that aren&#x27;t blatantly &amp; obviously AI-generated (they seem a surprisingly long way off still), I think this effect is worth keeping in mind: for me the aesthetic is a massive turnoff for any product page.
评论 #38880335 未加载
评论 #38878795 未加载
hdb2over 1 year ago
Initially I thought they were referring to fossil SCM:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www2.fossil-scm.org&#x2F;home&#x2F;doc&#x2F;trunk&#x2F;www&#x2F;index.wiki" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www2.fossil-scm.org&#x2F;home&#x2F;doc&#x2F;trunk&#x2F;www&#x2F;index.wiki</a><p>Since fossil SCM has been around awhile, the author might consider a name change to avoid confusion?
评论 #38880403 未加载
countWSSover 1 year ago
started using RSS feeds a few months ago, they&#x27;re still widely supported and there are JSON scrapers for those sites that don&#x27;t. The idea of &quot;reading N accounts&quot; to get some info or some algorithmic soup of &quot;popular stuff i tangentially show interest in&quot; doesn&#x27;t even compare to curated RSS feeds organized into groups. The unpopular, rare and obscure stuff can&#x27;t compete with algorithmically optimal SEO-friendly hype-tagged social media junk in the &quot;common prole-feed&quot; of giant websites.
hypertextheroover 1 year ago
See also: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fraidyc.at&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fraidyc.at&#x2F;</a>