Who wants to stick around through the apocalypse? What event would be a) well in advance with time to transit to NZ or Hawaii b) require a bunker rather than just isolating in your estate and c) what is the long game assuming society collapses?
Cory Doctorow has a fictional novella about this <a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250242334/masqueofthereddeath" rel="nofollow">https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250242334/masqueoftheredd...</a><p>> It's the story of a plute who brings his pals to his luxury bunker during civlizational collapse in the expectation of emerging once others have rebuilt.
> However, it’s essential to note that the majority of these assertions lack concrete evidence, raising questions about the validity of such widespread speculations.<p>Meanwhile, here's some more wild speculation..<p>Internet journalism at its finest.
Why spend all this money to build bunkers in likely the first places to be fully underwater when global catastrophes/climate shit goes down? Lol. I'd build mine in the middle of Wyoming or something.
The Expanse S05E09 offers a valid scenario on what would happen to such a bunker (scavengers exploit their resources, with the employees inside helping them).
I've always wondered how will you ensure the guards don't take over the complex in an apocalypse.<p>Training in MMA fighting would certainly increase your chances. Or quickly adapting mobster mentality.
I suppose I'm glad there are people in the world who are so comfortable and carefree that they don't feel the need to prepare for disaster scenarios, nor can they conceive of scenarios between 'all is well' and 'total apocalypse'.<p>But it's not crazy to be prepared. "Preppers" seemed to get a bad wrap because the ones you probably know are motivated by Alex Jones saying the Aliens are about to emerge from the mothership.<p>Meanwhile, find someone who either came from a less comfortable country (Basically not a G20+ country), or find a person who's spent time there in some capacity (military/non-profit/private contractor) and ask them if it's crazy to have a cache/bunker with everything you need to survive for a month or 6.<p>They're probably going to look at you and say "No, it's called being prepared. It's everyone else who's lost it."<p>If you live in the US, you could find someone who lived through hurricane Katrina, a brutal Tornado, or other relatively isolated incidents. Ask them if storing 6 months worth of food and shelter is something only 'conspiracy theorists' would do.<p>Many people got a glimpse of where things <i>could</i> go during Covid, and in the United States we didn't really begin to go down that path. If you want to keep so much faith in our supply chains, corporations, and debt loaded government that you place your family's disaster readiness in their hands then I invite you to read about any of the above.
There is a fun book about this phenomenon called Survival of the Richest by Douglas Rushkoff. He met other billionaires who were planning to build apocalypse bunkers with private security forces, They were all flummoxed by his question: how will you prevent your security from turning on you when your money is worthless?
New Zealand has been the traditional home for billionaires' bunkers. This is just a first for Hawaii. His abuse of the legal system to force neighbors to "sell" to him should have been a warning sign. When do we get to see the white cat with a diamond necklace?
Almost seems like these misanthropes have a vested interest in seeing the collapse of society. The humanistic society into which they failed to assimilate. If nothing happens, this is no small of amount of time, money and effort that went into building these bunkers. Perhaps they will become museums.
Why would it be so conspiratorial?<p>These people are overwhelmingly responsible for the viciation of our world and societies, and claim the profits from it.<p>An INT value only goes up to 2B, these people have orders of magnitude more money than that. Knowing our living planet's active course of destruction, this is literally the smartest way they could spend that money. The alternative is for them to have some kind of empathetic awakening, reorient their own existence and the existence of their enterprises, and recognize meaningful ways to spend their money... but if all the resource in the world couldn't give them that perspective, I doubt anything can.<p>It's crazy, because they could build a world in which there where good ways to spend that money, or spend that money on the multitude of extant causes that could use it. But they would rather hoard wealth and steal the collective future of the planet (including their own, and their offspring), and then delusionally try to seclude themselves away.<p>Their power only exists in the world they're bent on destroying.
Zuck started building without permits, and then when authorities tried to enforce the permit requirement he had those people fired.<p>Scum.<p>Also... your bright idea in an apocalypse is to isolate yourself on a remote island that already has problems shipping out resources?