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'Iranian cyber army' blamed as Wikipedia deletes atrocities

63 pointsby mostcallmeytover 1 year ago

8 comments

BSDobelixover 1 year ago
Why is there not a single example? They know one can compare the page-versions right?<p>For example:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;w&#x2F;index.php?title=Human_rights_in_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran&amp;diff=1194565018&amp;oldid=1192342980" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;w&#x2F;index.php?title=Human_rights_in_t...</a>
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HenryBemisover 1 year ago
(recklessly simplified ramblings of an semi-old man below)<p>Remembering the &quot;21 lessons for the 21st century&quot; and how Harari described the arm-wrestling between the various ideologies&#x2F;worlds, I see the the world is split in 3 (3.5) pieces.<p>1) The West (US-EU-satellites - writing first coz I&#x27;m in it)<p>2) The anti-west: Russia and satellites, Iran, NK, etc.)(they broke SO MANY EGGS but still - no omelette - well apart from the very few who rule via death)<p>3) The indifferent giants (they are planning their own world domination - soon)(see <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=xguam0TKMw8)(China" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=xguam0TKMw8)(China</a> is next, then perhaps India(?))<p>0.5) The remaining 0.5 (e.g. some African countries that will just follow whoever gives them goodies&#x2F;is the next global overlord).<p>In IT I use the phrase: the more you do, the more you need to do. I.e. you have 10 systems, you need to do 100 things (backups, encryption, training, etc.). When you go to 20 systems and 5 are talking to each other you also need job schedulers, and you add in the connected dots and complexity (thus more assets produce more effort)<p>You got a wikipedia? There is a new attack&#x2F;manipulation opportunity (available to all the players). The more you got, the more you need to do.<p>Now, why I care.. (this is not about politics&#x2F;religion)<p>I got some stocks and mutual funds. If the &quot;West&quot; is going &quot;down&quot;, I want to make sure that my&#x2F;the next generations will not receive a bunch of SP500 that is worth $0, so do I start NOW to buy &quot;China&quot;, &quot;India&quot;? Also, should we be telling our kids to start learning Chinese? (as we were told to learn English)<p>What should we start doing NOW to be better positioned in the Future? (my favorite Future related drawing: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;puzzledpagan.files.wordpress.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;05&#x2F;doomfuture.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;puzzledpagan.files.wordpress.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;05&#x2F;doomfuture....</a>)
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LorenPechtelover 1 year ago
And here we see the problem with a global community of &quot;volunteers&quot;. If some large group has a sufficient interest in manipulating things they can have enough &quot;volunteers&quot;.<p>And while things are supposed to remain neutral that still leaves cherry picking to cause readers to draw incorrect conclusions. Didn&#x27;t take me long to learn that--admittedly it was a controversial page but all I did was add what I thought was a missing link, exactly like the links behind the rest of the list in the sentence. Removed--and the only thing that makes sense is that it&#x27;s a link one side would prefer you not actually check what it says.
wslhover 1 year ago
Well, Wikipedia, with all their governance rules (good and&#x2F;or bad), is one of the top places to watch when there are conflicts that are plaguing social media. It has more transparency and I am curious why social researchers and [investigative] journalists are extemely slow as a low motion snail analyzing it.<p>BTW, the Iranian Cyber Army [1] really exists! Like other cyber armies around the world.<p>You can now look at many articles referring to the Israel-Hamas-[Hezbollah] war [2][3][4][5].<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Iranian_Cyber_Army" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Iranian_Cyber_Army</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Sexual_and_gender-based_violence_in_the_7_October_attack_on_Israel" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Sexual_and_gender-based_violen...</a><p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;meta.wikimedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Requests_for_comment&#x2F;Violating_the_Neutral_point_of_view_in_Arabic_Wiki" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;meta.wikimedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Requests_for_comment&#x2F;Violati...</a><p>[4] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Re%27im_music_festival_massacre" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Re%27im_music_festival_massacr...</a><p>[5] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Talk:Allegations_of_genocide_in_the_2023_Israeli_attack_on_Gaza" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Talk:Allegations_of_genocide_i...</a>
aa_is_opover 1 year ago
This is the country that wiped Albania&#x27;s government networks TWICE because they host some former political figures.<p>It&#x27;s also the country that cut out power and send the army to kill people in their homes at night during the recent Masha Amini protests.<p>This is also the country sponsoring Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthi rebels.<p>Is it actually that hard for you to believe they&#x27;re doing this?<p>IS IT?!?!?!?
aa_is_opover 1 year ago
&quot;Marco, a Wikipedia ­editor, reported the changes to site administrators and alerted The Times because he believed insufficient action was taken.&quot;<p>That&#x27;s not good.
CarRamrodover 1 year ago
You can never delete an atrocity, you can only set visibility to zero.
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nsajkoover 1 year ago
Zero information in the article, why is this being upvoted?
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