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Boeing to increase quality inspections of 737 MAX production

20 pointsby mindracerover 1 year ago

10 comments

adingusover 1 year ago
Harold Dodge said "You can't inspect quality into a system". The father of quality assurance, Edward Deming, understood this when he taught quality control to companies in post war Japan. The US learned these lessons during WWII and promptly forgot them. Increasing inspections doesn't prevent screw ups, it only catches them. You're still wasting money and time on mistakes, some of which will still go undetected by inspection. Just like you can't unit test quality into a crappy dev team. Quality is a cultural value that's built into the system and Boeings culture seems to be garbage.
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kibwenover 1 year ago
And then decrease quality inspections as soon as public attention has shifted elsewhere in two weeks?<p>If the alignment of incentives that brought us to this point have not changed, then we&#x27;ll be back here again shortly. Lightning always strikes twice, and it keeps striking until you take down the damn lightning rod.
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kylehotchkissover 1 year ago
FAA should nationalize their inspection teams. Bill their salaries back to Boeing as a fee.
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shagieover 1 year ago
Friday, January 12, 2024 - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.faa.gov&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;faa-increasing-oversight-boeing-production-and-manufacturing" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.faa.gov&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;faa-increasing-oversight-boeing...</a><p>&gt; WASHINGTON, D.C. — After taking decisive and immediate action to ground approximately 171 Boeing 737-9 MAX planes, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) today announced new and significant actions to immediately increase its oversight of Boeing production and manufacturing. These actions come one day after the FAA formally notified Boeing that the FAA has launched an investigation into the company as a result of last Friday’s incident on a Boeing Model 737-9 MAX in which the aircraft lost a passenger door plug while in flight.<p>&gt; ...<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.faa.gov&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;updates-grounding-boeing-737-max-9-aircraft" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.faa.gov&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;updates-grounding-boeing-737-ma...</a><p>&gt; This incident should have never happened and it cannot happen again. FAA formally notified Boeing that it is conducting an investigation to determine if Boeing failed to ensure completed products conformed to its approved design and were in a condition for safe operation in compliance with FAA regulations. This investigation is a result of an incident on a Boeing Model 737-9 MAX where it lost a “plug” type passenger door and additional discrepancies. Boeing’s manufacturing practices need to comply with the high safety standards they’re legally accountable to meet. The letter is attached.<p>&gt; The safety of the flying public, not speed, will determine the timeline for returning the Boeing 737-9 Max to service.<p>Attached letter: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.faa.gov&#x2F;sites&#x2F;faa.gov&#x2F;files&#x2F;EIR2024NM420001_737MAX9.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.faa.gov&#x2F;sites&#x2F;faa.gov&#x2F;files&#x2F;EIR2024NM420001_737M...</a>
RcouF1uZ4gsCover 1 year ago
The C-Suite and board members need to end up bankrupt and imprisoned.<p>We need to send a strong message - if you do this you will end up impoverished and in prison.<p>It isn’t because they didn’t know how to do proper inspections but because they thought it would be worth it to cut corners.
FrustratedMonkyover 1 year ago
Perhaps give a reason for Flagging<p>Boeing &quot;We were caught cutting corners, lets add some inspections and call it a day.&quot; I know Nuclear is super popular solution for Climate Change.<p>But remember, Boeing has peoples lives in their hands everyday, and the pressure to cut costs is still enough to overcome any qualms about deaths.<p>Remember the Boeing 737.<p>Remember how they tried to bypass regulations?<p>Remember outsourcing Software Testing to cut costs?<p>Now the door blow out?<p>Now a cracked windshield?<p>Cost Cutting will always win over lives.<p>So just remember that when advocating the return of Nuclear Power.<p>Chernobyl? Fukushima? These are NOT Exceptions when it comes to industrial accidents. They just happened to be what happened that wasn&#x27;t caught or covered up and big enough to be remembered. In any industry with cost pressures lives are secondary.<p>Instead of a single plane, it will be countries destroyed.
fifteen1506over 1 year ago
I see. Now that they&#x27;ve outsourced everything but their core competency (managing) they are going to get a Snowbot so their outsourced teams can inspect the planes. Cool!
VBprogrammerover 1 year ago
I was doing a bit of a back of the envelope calculation the other day. The max cabin differential on the 737 Max is a hair over 8psi. If we assume that plug is about 4ft x 3ft that is nearly 14000lb (about 6300kg) pushing on the plug. Quite extraordinary that it didn&#x27;t fail on the first flight out of the factory.
tiahuraover 1 year ago
Since this plane was built last year, I’m assuming they know who was responsible for tightening the bolts and inspections.<p>A journalist needs to bluntly ask if they’ve been fired. If they haven’t, it’s all lip service.
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6R1M0R4CL3over 1 year ago
hey boing, how does that DEI signaling taste now ?