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Elon Musk's Latest Robot Video Accidentally Gives Away the Magic Trick

36 pointsby reteltechover 1 year ago

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verdvermover 1 year ago
This is the same training technique Stanford ALOHA is using<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mobile-aloha.github.io&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mobile-aloha.github.io&#x2F;</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.trossenrobotics.com&#x2F;aloha.aspx" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.trossenrobotics.com&#x2F;aloha.aspx</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;venturebeat.com&#x2F;automation&#x2F;stanfords-mobile-aloha-robot-learns-from-humans-to-cook-clean-do-laundry&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;venturebeat.com&#x2F;automation&#x2F;stanfords-mobile-aloha-ro...</a>
qarlover 1 year ago
Pretty obvious deception, IMHO.<p>If the point is to demonstrate the training (which is copying a human) then why hide the human off screen? Because it creates the impression that it&#x27;s autonomous.<p>Putting &quot;but it&#x27;s not autonomous&quot; in a subsequent tweet is just plausible deniability.<p>His fans will argue this is just a simple misunderstanding. C&#x27;mon guys. You used to be smarter than this.
wilgover 1 year ago
The text of his tweet also &quot;gives away the magic trick&quot;:<p>&gt; Optimus cannot yet do this autonomously, but certainly will be able to do this fully autonomously and in an arbitrary environment (won’t require a fixed table with box that has only one shirt).
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genmanover 1 year ago
If this can be used for training then this magic trick can be enough. Training a language model uses in principle also just one magic trick - trying to predict a next sentence in a large set of ordered sentences.
DarmokJalad1701over 1 year ago
&gt; Optimus doesn’t appear have capabilities beyond anything we could do in 1964<p>Seems a bit disingenuous. Did the Lincoln robot have the dexterity in its fingers to do fine-motor tasks like folding laundry?<p>This has the same energy as saying the Falcon 9 isn&#x27;t a massive innovation because the Saturn V existed in the 60s. Propulsive landing was done back in the 60s by the Apollo LEM, so obviously the propulsively landing re-usable first stage was &quot;already done before&quot;.
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Koala_iceover 1 year ago
It’s a multimillion dollar game of “Where’s Waldo”!
iancmceachernover 1 year ago
This is very similar to how Intuitive Surgicals Da Vinci, and many surgical robotics systems work.