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Why Are American Cities Squalid?

41 pointsby barry-cotterover 1 year ago

12 comments

mancerayderover 1 year ago
Because we encourage it? If I am an IV drug user with no possessions, and a city promises the right to shelter (NYC as an example), decriminalization of hard drugs (NYC, SF, Seattle, Vancouver as examples), and volunteers or vending machines with Narcan are floating around, I would go to these cities from where I&#x27;m from.<p>Cities were less squalid in the early 2000s, and somewhere in the decade that followed we decided law enforcement and incarceration were doing more harm than good. So, we elected mayors like De Blasio and Progressive DAs like Alvin Bragg and Chesa Boudin.<p>It doesn&#x27;t help that in addition, now 100s of thousands of migrants are being bussed in.<p>Now parks are no longer usable for citizens and sometimes people living on the street or on public transport threaten us physically, but we&#x27;re reminded to check our privilege.<p>There&#x27;s nothing magical - this was a planned trade-off. The goal of Progressives is to treat homelessness and drug use as a shared societal problem to pay attention to, rather than hide under the rug (in prisons and jails).
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lucidguppyover 1 year ago
In Europe the pinnacle of collective action is the government.<p>In America the pinnacle of collective action is the corporation.<p>Corporations are required by law to maximize shareholder value - not maximize communal quality of life.<p>There are other levels of communal action in the US - churches and family mostly.<p>Cities are a product of intense collective action. In the US - it&#x27;s very easy to hobble the collective action of a city. The days of Robert Moses are gone - which is a good thing - he was a bastard.<p>Even if we adopt strategies like &quot;Strong Towns&quot; that&#x27;s not a guarantee of non-squalid street conditions.<p>Nation states need to re-evaluate what their purpose is. Not likely to happen though.
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digitcatphdover 1 year ago
I think the real answer is.. whatever we are personally &#x27;against&#x27; is the real cause... and whatever we are personally &#x27;for&#x27; is the solution.
janice1999over 1 year ago
The answer is racism, see the story of Robert Moses [0].<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.iheart.com&#x2F;podcast&#x2F;105-behind-the-bastards-29236323&#x2F;episode&#x2F;part-one-the-man-who-ruined-99056594&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.iheart.com&#x2F;podcast&#x2F;105-behind-the-bastards-29236...</a>
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tjansenover 1 year ago
&quot;it has always been jarring to come home to the US, often from much poorer countries — in this case Bulgaria — to find that our infrastructure is infinitely worse&quot;<p>In a way, the infrastructure is poorer because the US are richer. Better infrastructure means higher taxes, which not only cost money, but incentive. With enough money you can overcome the issues of poor infrastructure. Bad public transport? Uber is even better than good public transport. Bad roads? Buy a better car. Homeless in the city? Get a huge house in the suburbs.
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alexawarrior23over 1 year ago
America is one of the few countries in the world where a majority of the population lives in the suburbs, in single family homes and large apartments, with almost universal automobile ownership. It is designed this way, by both the federal and state government through prioritizing highways over passenger rail, and local governments by prioritizing local roads and parking over public transportation and pedestrian and cycling paths. Largely this has the support of the population who prefer prioritizing automobiles.<p>You lose a lot when you make these your priorities. You lose the magnificent airport of Singapore, the railways of Japan, the cycling paths running across the whole of the Netherlands, the twisting trails linking villages together in the Alps. You lose a lot of social venues and social cohesion.<p>But you also gain something. You gain something almost unique in the world, which is the ability of the majority of the population (especially outside high CoL areas) to own their own house, a real house, earth to sky, with four walls to the winds. Often with its own garage, often attached, allowing you to pass directly to your car without touching the elements. You get space - the tremendous space - that feeling of infinite possibilities that hits you when you first step out of the airport of an American city, squalor and all.<p>&quot;Germany, like much of northern Europe, is a high-regulation society, but it’s also high-trust&quot;<p>I&#x27;ve lived in Germany a long time, and while it&#x27;s a wonderful place, I can tell you a lot of people who want to get out, who are tired of being trapped in their tiny cold apartment worried if they can afford heating more than just their bedroom or (the decadence!) the entire apartment. The kind of freedom you feel in a country where you can just drop everything and move to a different coast and find a job and speak the same language, you can&#x27;t do that here, at least not with a tremendous number of barriers to cross. And don&#x27;t even get me started on dryers.<p>&quot;I like to live here, but the reality is we are rapidly falling behind the rest of the world in liveability (sic)&quot;<p>Livability as defined by world rankings, no, American cities won&#x27;t match up. Even NYC&#x27;s public transit is a joke compared to much of the world. But livability as defined by, somewhere I have the freedom to live, to own, to dream... the USA might just be the place.
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simonblackover 1 year ago
Cultural thing.<p>If it&#x27;s communal, it doesn&#x27;t belong to anybody, so we don&#x27;t bother to take care of it. Or we trash it because &#x27;It&#x27;s not mine so who cares?&#x27;<p>Other countries have different cultures: If it&#x27;s communal it belongs to all of us, me included, so I&#x27;ll take care of it.<p>New York Train Station: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;c8.alamy.com&#x2F;comp&#x2F;F9Y3KY&#x2F;new-york-city-subway-station-with-graffiti-in-the-background-and-subway-F9Y3KY.jpg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;c8.alamy.com&#x2F;comp&#x2F;F9Y3KY&#x2F;new-york-city-subway-statio...</a><p>Moscow Train Station: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;media.gettyimages.com&#x2F;id&#x2F;616625206&#x2F;photo&#x2F;mayakovskaya-moscow-metro-station-russia.jpg?s=612x612&amp;w=0&amp;k=20&amp;c=4grGgAJiaYEPO9o7zJfDMYBhu4n4GzlUBNYVUb5e30w=" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;media.gettyimages.com&#x2F;id&#x2F;616625206&#x2F;photo&#x2F;mayakovskay...</a>
1letterunixnameover 1 year ago
Americans don&#x27;t realize how bad they have it, lack the courage and wisdom to organize effective protests about it, and the very rich have rigged the political and government structures to avoid investment in anything not for them.<p>Unfortunately, this means turning America into a grossly-unequal banana republic that includes either malicious neglect or malicious disadvantaging groups without power or influence. A proper response would be organized, collective action by those who are most at risk and impacted led by leaders with specific, actionable demands but, unfortunately, there is no appetite and the same Americans lack balls. The result is continued shrugging by some, squalid misery for others, stressful struggling for more, and easy privilege for a few.
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injeolmi_loveover 1 year ago
Many countries just hide poverty and homelessness. For instance by sending them all to a district foreigners don’t go to or know about.
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incomingpainover 1 year ago
A very complex problem the deeper you investigate this, the less you seem to know. I&#x27;ve done it :)<p>If you look at who is doing it super well, like perhaps Japan? It&#x27;s largely due to a 99.99% conviction rate on all crime accusations, which I take as a kangaroo court system, into penal labour. I don&#x27;t think there&#x27;s much to learn from there. Japan should stop their penal labour.<p>Switzerland, norway do a good job? Which came down to largely speaking a change about 10 years ago where people may live in the war fallout shelters but also a huge difference in labour laws. Mainly being no minimum wage. There&#x27;s some brilliance to this, but not the entire answer. North america doesnt have these equivalent policies which isolate the squalid issues to another place. So often the social nets are located downtown and so they isolate these issues to their downtown. Moving the problem, isnt necessarily solving the problem.<p>You look at countries which have universal mental health care AND universal parental leave and supports. There&#x27;s a huge correlation to solving these sorts of problems. Early childhood abuse reductions have huge impact toward criminality in general, including frivolous crimes like speeding and littering.<p>But then you look at the &#x27;who is even responsible for cleaning up the mess&#x27; and generally speaking its the municipalities.<p>&gt;But NYC’s problems only seem to be getting worse, especially for those who have the least.<p>I never researched NYC specifically back in the day but I am aware of what&#x27;s happening there.<p>If you research Coleman Young&#x27;s failures with detroit. NYC is basically following lockstep with how he failed detroit and caused the city of detroit&#x27;s decline. Hows the saying go? Don&#x27;t learn history and repeat it?<p>Thousands of years ago the political class figured out that the more control you apply to your populous, the more powerful you feel but the less actual control you have.<p>I cant point to any specific year for NYC but they&#x27;ve been in decline for at least a decade or more.<p>Basically what happens, the political class increases control, pushes out those who oppose and end up with increased support. They claim success. They rinse repeat. After a number of these cycles, the richer people who can afford to flee, have fled. Then you start getting tax hikes because they don&#x27;t quite have the same tax base anymore.They dont blame themselves for the problem they caused.<p>So later on, you really struggle with your budget. NYC recentlyish announced deep cuts to police, education, libraries.<p>So NYC is deeply reducing the services they provide for what exactly? They take a percentage and have had many tax hikes.<p>Obviously, cleaning the squalor has already been cut. How many people just look at the tremendously high taxes and regulations, but then compare it to the now greatly reduced services. Where&#x27;s all the money going? So you leave as well.<p>The only way NYC prevents their collapse is a huge reduction is their control. But politically that will never happen, so the squalor will increasingly get worse.
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shermozleover 1 year ago
Yet another article on HN with a question headline that can be answered with the simple answer: Capitalism. It&#x27;s always capitalism.
oldpersonintxover 1 year ago
City governments were taken over by progressives who ignored crime, homelessness and many other issues and instead dedicated their energies to &quot;resisting&quot;