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Zig Software Foundation 2024 Financial Report and Fundraiser

180 pointsby quic5over 1 year ago

13 comments

emidootsover 1 year ago
Myself and many others are betting on Zig in major ways, I truly think it has a bright future ahead.<p>In spare time, myself and a few others are working on a game engine in Zig[0], and the Zig core team has been very receptive to addressing issues our project faces and supporting us.<p>Others are working on pixel art editors[1], open source 2D RPG games[2], there&#x27;s a group of independent folks working on a 3D massive immersive sim game[3], a group working on making Zig an amazing language for micro-controllers[4], etc.<p>Please consider donating $5-10 a month to the ZSF! They are a great group of people, and it has so many knock-on effects for others in the FOSS community. :)<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;machengine.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;machengine.org&#x2F;</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;foxnne&#x2F;pixi">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;foxnne&#x2F;pixi</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;foxnne&#x2F;aftersun">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;foxnne&#x2F;aftersun</a><p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Srekel&#x2F;tides-of-revival">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Srekel&#x2F;tides-of-revival</a><p>[4] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ZigEmbeddedGroup">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ZigEmbeddedGroup</a>
jmullover 1 year ago
As someone who&#x27;s been contributing $10&#x2F;mo for a couple years, I&#x27;d like to see AK and contractors paid more.<p>It&#x27;s great to see the dollars spent so frugally (they are paying something like 60-65% market of average devs) but this is a long-term project so sustainability cannot be ignored. Sooner or later contributors will face tough life choices.<p>Obviously, that means slower development unless funding shoots up for some reason, and 1.0 already seems far away, but I think otherwise there&#x27;s too high a risk that it never happens or happens in an ultimately un-useful way.<p>Anyway, I always thought this project was valuable (that&#x27;s why I started supporting it), but since I&#x27;ve been following it, I&#x27;ve found I also like the way it is run so I guess I should put my money where my mouth is... I just went up to $15&#x2F;mo.<p>I honestly can&#x27;t predict whether or not this will succeed, but I&#x27;m pretty sure it&#x27;s worth a try.
sitkackover 1 year ago
We are all better off for Zig existing, even if we don’t directly use it. That is why I donate. The information density being in the Goldilocks Zone is a masterful quality of the Zig society.<p>I am going to both increase my donation and figure out how to hookup my corporate matching, didn’t know that was possible.<p>Base for everyone!
pid-1over 1 year ago
&gt; We spent 92% of our money in 2023 on paying contributors for their time.<p>That&#x27;s really cool. Sometimes I think about donating to the PSF, but I don&#x27;t really care about PyCon.
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geodelover 1 year ago
This is extremely impressive. With about no support from software industries&#x27; heavy hitters, they are able to run quite successful foundation and project.<p>Few days back there was topic &quot;Rust contributor&#x27;s burnout&quot; here on HN. I understand it maybe a sensitive topic but from outside it feels contributors working on Zig seem generally happy and excited about their contributions. And I think this is more important than number of features crammed or 1.0 release deadline committed to.
infamouscowover 1 year ago
I&#x27;ll be increasing my Zig donations as a result of making the financials very transparent and easily accessible.<p>The Zig Software Foundation is very organized and has their stuff together. Hopefully other languages follow the ZSF&#x27;s lead.
nbittichover 1 year ago
I wish the rust foundation could write articles like that, no corporate legal bullshit.
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matu3baover 1 year ago
A more recent example of excellent work with Zig on improving state of the art parsing can be seen in this fine presentation of a SIMD-heavy project: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=oN8LDpWuPWw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=oN8LDpWuPWw</a>. It shows SWAR-techiques for embedded devices to be used in place of SIMD are useful + feasible and missed out LLVM optimizations on non-x86&#x2F;x86_64 besides technical background and theory on simplified examples.
xcdzvynover 1 year ago
It&#x27;s very interesting to see Uber betting on Zig, let alone the income it generates. This certainly benefited my faith in Zig&#x27;s long-term sustainability.
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nindalfover 1 year ago
I really hope Zig succeeds! Of all the languages out there, I think it&#x27;s the closest to achieving the goal of being C, but without the avoidable footguns. Rust is great too, but is different enough that I can imagine a future where both Zig and Rust easily succeed.<p>I hope they&#x27;re able to raise the money they need to fulfil their ambitious roadmap!
jonahxover 1 year ago
&quot;Some of this cost is for hosting ziglang.org. Since our free AWS credits have expired we have plans to switch to Fastly which should save about $500&#x2F;month.&quot;<p>Just curious why a static site would cost so much even on AWS? Would it be many downloads of large-ish binary files?
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binary132over 1 year ago
I have a hard time justifying faith in and donation to Zig when I don’t see reaching production quality as having a high priority for the project over the years. I am hopeful that will eventually change and it will some day even be able to compete with C, C++, and Rust.
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synergy20over 1 year ago
I never understand why fundamental work which is super hard to do got paid so little, the whole budget of Zig might be less than an average senior software developer&#x27;s salary at a FAANG company, this does not make sense to me at all.<p>On the other hand, what&#x27;s the timeline for 1.0? I might stick with C and C++, but always glad to see Zig to succeed.
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