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CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

98 pointsby qwertyuiop_over 1 year ago

15 comments

rdtscover 1 year ago
The &quot;stop touching her&quot; part was interesting <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=65iwnI2hjAA&amp;t=791s" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=65iwnI2hjAA&amp;t=791s</a><p>One member of the group of waving the Chinese flag in Brendan&#x27;s direction. He seems to have touched the flag or put his hand forward to touch the flag. The man with the group starting yelling very loudly &quot;stop touching her&quot;. But it wasn&#x27;t a desperate cry for help, it was very deliberate and forced in a way. He realized all of the sudden he could get Brendan in trouble.<p>The other members in the group were happily smiling in the background, obviously not bothered by this horrible &quot;touch assault&quot;. When police came, the Chinese man immediately ran towards the police to be the first to tell his story.<p>So there seems to be some awareness that &quot;touching&quot; is not allowed here, but I think with a bit practice they might find out about Streisand effect and filming in public too<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Streisand_effect" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Streisand_effect</a>
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greatgibover 1 year ago
In this video, something that amaze me and that is quite unique to UK in my opinion is how correct and respectful are the police officers.<p>In most countries, they would have used (and abused) of their authority to yell at the guy. Telling him that he has to shut up whatever they say even if not true. And otherwise it would be police offense.<p>Here, despite the tension they keep their calm, try to stay respectful and not aggressive and do what they can to defuse the situation.<p>In my opinion, it works very well to have the person in front reduce their aggressivity.
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0xSNAFUover 1 year ago
It&#x27;s interesting this is getting &quot;flagged&quot; and &quot;unflagged&quot; a few times - I think it is 100% on topic here.
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andsoitisover 1 year ago
It looks like the individuals were trolling him (&quot;don&#x27;t share video online that shows us in the picture...&quot;) or just trying to pick a fight.<p>Unfortunately, these days you have to assume that someone is taking video or photos in public space and it might mean you end up online without your permission. In very rare cases such a video might go viral which then can draw attention to yourself.
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cassianolealover 1 year ago
The title of the video is &quot;Police Called To Stop Filming During Piano Livestream&quot;.<p>There are no indications that the people who (very wrongfully) approached them are members of the CCP. They may well be but there&#x27;s nothing in the video supporting that.
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tpoacherover 1 year ago
Aaand here&#x27;s the inevitable doxxing that&#x27;s now come out from having this video being posted, if anyone&#x27;s still reading this thread.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;9gag.com&#x2F;gag&#x2F;a8qZ9vO" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;9gag.com&#x2F;gag&#x2F;a8qZ9vO</a><p>Given how predictable this kind of mob reaction was, I still maintain the person filming was a dick; within legal rights or otherwise. Some of the comments here gleefully implying FAFO &#x2F; Streisand Effect and the like, are baffling to say the least.<p>Meanwhile, this explanation from one of the people involved sounds very sensible: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;Byron_Wan&#x2F;status&#x2F;1749626454021992852" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;Byron_Wan&#x2F;status&#x2F;1749626454021992852</a>
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ilamontover 1 year ago
I once read that France has some sort of law about photographing people who don’t want to be included in a picture in a public place. Does the UK have something similar, or is this a “little wolf warrior” misunderstanding what he can demand or do abroad?
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bemusedthrow75over 1 year ago
Not sure who first said it but: a true musician is someone who <i>could</i> play boogie-woogie on the public piano, but chooses not to.
ShaolinTrooperover 1 year ago
I&#x27;ve watched the video again.<p>Brendan tried to get the Chinese woman to &quot;dance&quot; and made a remark that British girls are more fun which was really inappropriate and disrespectful when the Chinese woman respectfully disagreed to dance.<p>The Chinese woman then again respectfully requested to not film them in a nice tone and not in a condescending way well at least not to me.<p>Brendan then again started to retaliate and did not respect the request which is by the way, not that hard to honor such a request. Brendan could&#x27;ve moved on and just played music after that but instead, he wanted to make a fuss about it and for me, it looked like he tried to escalate it.<p>The Chinese guy then comes in to explain in a very commanding voice because Brendan isn&#x27;t listening and being dismissive of the whole thing. He explained clearly that they do not give consent on being included in the video because they are way in the background and Brendan had the camera point to the Chinese group in the background for the &quot;dance&quot; request.<p>The Chinese guy then sounds frustrated when his initial request was not even acknowledged by Brendan and was answered in retaliation by asking a question instead of respecting the request which should&#x27;ve been a fair request to begin with.<p>Brendan then escalates further by saying &quot;We are not in Communist China&quot; which was way out of line and very racist because in this conversation, their country of origin is irrelevant. They are just people asking not to be included in the video which by the way is used for profit. It&#x27;s not a Chinese thing to not be included in any video by the way.<p>To me, Brendan &#x2F; Dr. K was in the wrong in this one. He clearly did not listen and tried to be a dick about it making it all about &quot;FREE SPEECH&quot; when clearly it&#x27;s not.
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ShaolinTrooperover 1 year ago
The thing is that the Chinese people didn&#x27;t want to be filmed because they knew it will be published on Youtube for revenue and that&#x27;s what they didn&#x27;t want. They allow people to film on a normal basis because it will not be published for profit. That&#x27;s what Brendan didn&#x27;t understand in the first place.<p>The Chinese man was in the wrong for escalating the situation gathering more attention and it seemed like he was making it look like they were being oppressed. We need the side of the Chinese people on this. We&#x27;ll see.
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g-b-rover 1 year ago
The chinese guy becomes a huge moron when he claims he touched her, but the pianist is a big jerk as well.<p>Calling &quot;freedom&quot; the right to film (and publish on YouTube) anyone is ludicrous (yeah I know how many Americans do that).<p>Your freedom ends when others&#x27; freedoms begin, and if you had to assume that everything you do in public would be stored forever for the world to see your freedom just tanked.
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bemusedthrow75over 1 year ago
Also: middle-aged white British guy talking about the CCP is a bit of a British alt-right trope; it&#x27;s a term that is flung around in any context where rights, authority or infringements are discussed.<p>So it&#x27;s not remotely surprising to see it applied to <i>actual Chinese people</i>, whether there&#x27;s justification or not.
swat535over 1 year ago
FYI, OP has posted an update, looks like they are trying take it down: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=dZ1BtQ6AEyM" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=dZ1BtQ6AEyM</a>
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0xSNAFUover 1 year ago
I see very similar cultural clashes often in my work routine as an open-source developer (based in Europe) working in the wild. With some cultures there is a much bigger gap to fill.
foverzarover 1 year ago
So, some asian-looking people asked the guy not to film them and the guy decided to be a loud dick about the whole thing, while almost assaulting one of the women.<p>&quot;CCP members threaten British public piano player&quot;, right.<p>I get that some countries still don&#x27;t have a legal requirement to blur people in the background (or at least when they asked you to), but this is a common courtesy and basic politeness every semi-professional vlogger understands.<p>Just don&#x27;t be evil.
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