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Epic Games CEO Likens Apple's Core Tech Fee to Unity's Disastrous Runtime Fee

66 pointsby nathan_phoenixover 1 year ago

7 comments

jasodeover 1 year ago
A key difference is that Apple is making the new install fee &quot;optional&quot; in the sense that you can stay with existing Developer TOS (no install fee) -- or -- switch to the newer EU TOS (with install fees)[0]. Unity didn&#x27;t have the &quot;keep existing license with no changes&quot; option so the outrage level is going to be different for Apple. Unity did eventually relent after a week and reversed their install fees decision. Apple doesn&#x27;t have to do a Unity-style policy reversal because they <i>already have the existing TOS that don&#x27;t have the fees</i>.<p>That said, there&#x27;s no doubt that Apple carefully crafted the financial terms of the new EU developer TOS to make it economically unattractive.<p>[0] <i>[...] Also today, Apple is sharing new business terms available for developers’ apps in the European Union. Developers can choose to adopt these new business terms, or stay on Apple’s existing terms. [...]</i> -- excerpt from <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apple.com&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;2024&#x2F;01&#x2F;apple-announces-changes-to-ios-safari-and-the-app-store-in-the-european-union&#x2F;#:~:text=Apple%20is%20sharing%20new%20business%20terms%20available%20for%20developers%E2%80%99%20apps%20in%20the%20European%20Union.%20Developers%20can%20choose%20to%20adopt%20these%20new%20business%20terms,%20or%20stay%20on%20Apple%E2%80%99s%20existing%20terms" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apple.com&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;2024&#x2F;01&#x2F;apple-announces-chang...</a>.
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daerosover 1 year ago
I agree with Tim Sweeney, but I will note that It&#x27;s awkward to do so because Epic charges to be in their App store too, so he&#x27;s being a bit hypocritical. But I&#x27;d have the tech world know that logically speaking, appeals to hypocrisy only speaks to the men&#x27;s character. They do nothing to refute the argument the hypocrite is making. It&#x27;s not as simple as So and so is a hypocrite and therefore their argument is invalid.<p>If that were the case then every time someone who smokes told you it&#x27;s a filthy habit don&#x27;t copy me, you would take up smoking concluding there was vitamin C in it, and it must be good for you.
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nickthegreekover 1 year ago
Unity was not going to allow its users to use the old terms. Apple developers have the choice to stick with the current system.
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dkarrasover 1 year ago
he is just trying to be inflammatory because he didn&#x27;t get what he wanted. with unity, you had no alternative. CTF only applies if you want to not use Apple&#x27;s own AppStore.
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zyangover 1 year ago
Doesn&#x27;t Unreal charge a &quot;core technology fee&quot;?
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acedTrexover 1 year ago
Apple and Unity have slightly different financial moats
alphabettsyover 1 year ago
Epic games, the company where you can only purchase some titles through them and don’t really own what you’ve bought? That Epic games?