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Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

134 pointsby Phileosopherover 1 year ago

42 comments

alextingleover 1 year ago
Unicomp&#x27;s customer service was absolutely terrible when I bought from them. I ordered a black keyboard. They spent ages doing nothing. When I complained, they finally shipped me... a beige keyboard.<p>When I notified them, the rep said (and I quote), &quot;I don&#x27;t really see the problem... can&#x27;t you use it as is?&quot;<p>He refused to replace it, and reluctantly refunded me the purchase price (but not the extremely expensive postage). So if I wanted to get what I actually ordered, I&#x27;d have had to start the whole tortuous process from scratch, and <i>still</i> be out of pocket.<p>The whole experience was ridiculous.
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imaginarypedroover 1 year ago
I had a classic 101-key Unicomp Model M that I purchased while they were apparently having quality problems due to worn out tooling. The keys felt different than my real Model Ms and the spacebar frequently stuck. They&#x27;ve since refurbished the tooling and I hear the quality is back to the high level you would expect.<p>For me though I just chose to retire the Unicomp and refurbish my real Model Ms. I bought three about 20 years ago from <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.clickykeyboards.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.clickykeyboards.com&#x2F;</a> and sent them back last year. They&#x27;re as good as new and they feel so good to type on. Plus I don&#x27;t have those damned extra keys the &quot;New&quot; Model M has.
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op00toover 1 year ago
I grew up a half mile away from a major IBM office. My friends and I would sneak through the woods and go dumpster diving. We would routinely get 3-4 new in box keyboards, plenty of floppies, even real fancy chairs!
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rootusrootusover 1 year ago
I&#x27;ve got one of these. It&#x27;s difficult to beat the feel of those keys, that is for sure. But at full tilt I think the neighbors across the street can hear me typing. So it primarily sits in my closet these days, while I use a much quieter (but far from silent) CODE mechanical keyboard.
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doublepg23over 1 year ago
Love the New Model M keyboard. I have one for my personal setup and one for my work setup. Recent batches also use Rpi Picos now which let you flash custom firmware. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;purdeaandrei&#x2F;vial-qmk-overnumpad-and-aristides-2862&#x2F;releases&#x2F;tag&#x2F;v0.2">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;purdeaandrei&#x2F;vial-qmk-overnumpad-and-aris...</a><p>In theory, they&#x27;re probably &quot;worse&quot; than a brand new IBM made Model M was but I think people overestimate the feel of extant Model Ms that have been around for 30, 40 years now. I also found PS&#x2F;2 -&gt; USB adapters to be pretty flaky after a few years.<p>My comparison is a IBM made SSK and Lexmark made regular M.
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jseligerover 1 year ago
I used one for years and liked it, but, after switching to an ergonomic keyboard, I wouldn&#x27;t want to primarily move back to a standard one.
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jtriangleover 1 year ago
This is quite cool, but I really don&#x27;t understand some people&#x27;s affinity toward buckling spring switches, they&#x27;re loud and odd feeling, not nearly as consistent as anything cherry or their alternatives are offering.
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cduzzover 1 year ago
I&#x27;ve got a couple M keyboards floating around. I grew up using an IBM PC with the F keyboard; when I got my first computer I got a &quot;focus 2002&quot; keyboard that also had the mechanical (but not BS) keys.<p>Worked a university and availed myself of their &quot;surplus junk&quot; sales every 2nd tuesday of the month and adopted many a weird piece of hardware, and eventually had a stack of 3 decent M keyboards that I&#x27;d rotate through on my various systems.<p>Decades later, I got tired of the junky dell USB keyboards and tried one out in the WFH days and discovered ... too loud, too big, kinda too annoying.<p>I did, however, come upon a lexmark M4-1 keyboard, which has been an absolute delight. Good typing feel, has the trackpoint thing in the middle, not too big. Really quite wonderful. I don&#x27;t even really notice the lack of all the fancy new keys -- I remap the capslock to whatever and it&#x27;s almost like I&#x27;m back on my model f (or old &quot;unix&quot; keyboards of the 90s) with the control key next to the A. It&#x27;s not the control key -- my muscle memory has firmly moved it to the bottom left &#x2F; right, but the OS &quot;meta&quot; key kinda serves the same role.<p>I even got one of the model Ms with the trackpoint in the middle (no, not a black one) -- and I just don&#x27;t like the feel as much as the m4-1, which the internet says is based on early IBM laptop keyboards.<p>Too bad the USB&#x2F;PS2 dongle sometimes drops out and the keyboard reboots and flashes the 3 leds, which is somewhat annoying.
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bombcarover 1 year ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.modelfkeyboards.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.modelfkeyboards.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;</a> has some similar things.<p>The Model F 122 puts the Model M out to pasture.
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vunderbaover 1 year ago
As an aside and a huge lover of mechanical keyboards since the original IBM model M with the buckler springs, I picked up a Keychron Q5 Pro a few months ago and really like it.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.keychron.com&#x2F;products&#x2F;keychron-q5-pro-qmk-via-wireless-custom-mechanical-keyboard" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.keychron.com&#x2F;products&#x2F;keychron-q5-pro-qmk-via-wi...</a><p>It&#x27;s pretty easy to replace the key caps and it has a very good tactile feel to it. It does weigh as much as a houseboat but that&#x27;s fine as I prefer it to stay stationary.<p>One thing that makes their keyboards stand out over almost any other mechanicals is it has a means of quickly swapping between three different Bluetooth pairings, so I have it paired with three different computers.<p>Now if only I could find an equivalent mouse with a mechanical switch underneath it that let me swap between three different computers wirelessly via BT I would be set...
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adrianmonkover 1 year ago
As long as we&#x27;re talking mechanical keyboards, do they all require maintenance just to keep working, or is the basic Cooler Master one I bought just a dud?<p>After only like 2 years, many of the keys stopped working reliably. They&#x27;d double type or fail to register. I looked into it, and this seems to be a common issue with many mechanical keyboards. I tried some of the recommended solutions (blow dust out, use contact cleaner), and it improved things, but it&#x27;s still not quite right.<p>I do like the feel, but I don&#x27;t like the maintenance or lack of longevity. I&#x27;d be willing to pay more for a mechanical keyboard that is darned near maintenance free, but I&#x27;m not sure whether such a thing actually exists.
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neomover 1 year ago
There is also a mac version: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pckeyboard.com&#x2F;mm5&#x2F;merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&amp;Product_Code=NEW_M_MAC" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pckeyboard.com&#x2F;mm5&#x2F;merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&amp;Prod...</a>
CommieBobDoleover 1 year ago
I tried one of the new Unicomps at work and it was fine, but it has a different (and in my opinion, lesser) feel and sound than the real Model M. I&#x27;m not sure what sort of plastic the Unicomp uses for the case, but it&#x27;s thin and hard and resonant. The real model M uses a thick ABS case that dampens vibrations and the resulting noise&#x2F;harsh feel.<p>I have continued using my old (June 2, 1987) Model M at home, and now that I don&#x27;t work at the office anymore, it&#x27;s the only keyboard I use. I keep the Unicomp on hand in case of emergencies, but it mostly just gathers dust.
23B1over 1 year ago
Not sure if this breaks HN&#x27;s rules, but I&#x27;d love to hear anyones suggestions on favorite split keyboards. There&#x27;s a lot of homebrew boards out there that&#x27;re very small&#x2F;light but I have sausage fingers and the demeanor of an orangutan.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;KINESIS-Advantage360-Professional-Ergonomic-Keyboard&#x2F;dp&#x2F;B0BCHMGZMD" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;KINESIS-Advantage360-Professional-Erg...</a><p>^closest I&#x27;ve found, but $$$
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Nursieover 1 year ago
Was just thinking how much I miss my old model M. I got a stack of them from an old girlfriend when (and this is back in maybe 1999) a place she was working at was getting rid of a whole load of old IBM PCs. They were 486s in the age of the Pentium 2&#x2F;3, so basically useless, but each one came with a PS2 model M.<p>I used that keyboard for about 10 years, then gave it to a friend when I was moving country. I moved back, and they gave it back. I used it for another few years, though a little less as it is <i>so</i> loud. Then I moved country again and gave it to a workmate who is a real keyboard enthusiast kind of guy, and I understand it&#x27;s now back in daily use.<p>It&#x27;s bigger than I want these days - I&#x27;m a fan of the TKL keyboard now. But I see they do a Mini!<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pckeyboard.com&#x2F;page&#x2F;product&#x2F;MINI_M" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pckeyboard.com&#x2F;page&#x2F;product&#x2F;MINI_M</a><p>Hmmm....
deeesstorontoover 1 year ago
I really enjoy typing on the unicomp buckling spring keyboard; I&#x27;ve had an older model for a long time.<p>It seemed very well built on the outside, however eventually a number of keys stopped functioning. Taking it apart, I found that the plastic rivets holding the assembly together failed.<p>It was repairable by drilling and replacing the rivets with machine screws. Although original model M&#x27;s were built in the same way, the design or manufacture of these rivets on my unit is completely insufficient. I&#x27;d expect better for a keyboard in this price range. This also seems to be a common problem based on scouring the forums. I&#x27;d hope this would be re-designed in newer models, however also don&#x27;t hold out much hope.
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snvzzover 1 year ago
Moved on to Topre switches.<p>I don&#x27;t miss model M; pre-topre mechanical is just obsolete technology now.
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atan2over 1 year ago
I have a Unicomp New model M and I used for a long time. The only reason I am using something else is because it kept waking the baby up and apparently I should &quot;get a less noisy keyboard like a normal person.&quot;
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jacheeover 1 year ago
I daily drive one of these. There’s nothing quite like the crunch of an actual buckling spring.<p>I wish there were a bit more of a customization market, but I’m pretty happy with mine, despite it being beige on beige.
projektfuover 1 year ago
I bought one of their keyboards back maybe 6 years ago and it simply died one day after warranty but not long onto its life. I would consider trying again but the price is just too high to risk it.
orthoxeroxover 1 year ago
I bought a couple Unicomp keyboards in late 2011, I don&#x27;t even remember the model name, something like SpaceSaver. I&#x27;m currently typing this comment on one of them and the other one is in another home.<p>I love the clickiness, the heft, the fact that it&#x27;s built like a tank. I am not a big fan of the PS&#x2F;2 (2011 me worried about USB rollover and didn&#x27;t expect PS&#x2F;2 to die out) and my coworkers weren&#x27;t big fans of the clickiness at all, but it&#x27;s one of my favorite possessions.
tamrixover 1 year ago
Used a unicomp Model M 8+ years ago. Spilled coffee on it and it was dead dead.<p>It&#x27;s a very loud keyboard. You couldn&#x27;t use one today if you had to type during a zoom or teams meeting.
hlandauover 1 year ago
Case is only available in black?<p>Wish they wouldn&#x27;t put that hideous logo on it.<p>I&#x27;ve heard claims that the keycap shapes have decayed as the original injection moulding moulds have worn. But judging by comments above it sounds like they have resolved that.<p>Audio keys feel like a necessity for me nowadays. The Ducky one3 I use puts them where the LEDs usually go and I feel that works really well. There&#x27;s also existing Model Ms but lack of Super keys is a total dealbreaker for me.
romwellover 1 year ago
Huh. Neat, I guess.<p>I was lucky enough to get an original IBM Model M keyboard from a friend when the lab he was at was clearing out their old equipment.<p>Plugged it in a few years back through a USB-to-PS&#x2F;2 adapter when my basic Logitech keyboard crapped out for no reason.<p>Mapped CapsLock to the &quot;Win&quot; (Super) key, and...<p>...still using it, without feeling that anything&#x27;s missing.<p>Some things have reached their peak form, I guess. A 3-speed city bicycle is one of them; IBM Model M keyboard is another. Glad there&#x27;s a company out there making it.
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dartharvaover 1 year ago
I will once again ask you guys to check out TVS Gold keyboards, they are a functional successor to the Model M and ubiquitous in India. Did I mention they are also really cheap?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.tvs-e.in&#x2F;keyboards-and-mice&#x2F;gold-pro&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.tvs-e.in&#x2F;keyboards-and-mice&#x2F;gold-pro&#x2F;</a>
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cmrdporcupineover 1 year ago
Man I love those switches, and had a Model M for years... but I hate the layout and am not a huge fan of the keycaps. Useless CapsLocks where control should be is one of the worst legacies of the IBM PC, along with the x86 instruction set.<p>I would love to see the buckling spring keyswitches paired with some doubleshot SA profile keycaps.
Koshkinover 1 year ago
Give me my L-shaped Enter key back please!
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Bayazover 1 year ago
They should try to cash in on the lucrative custom keycap market. When my last Unicomp model died years ago, I replaced it with a modular board and Box Navy switches to simulate the buckling spring feel. It’s close, but not exactly the same. I’d switch back to a Model M if there were custom keycaps.
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diffeomorphismover 1 year ago
Somewhat relevant, you can get the sound (but not feel) of this keyboard as software:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;zevv&#x2F;bucklespring">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;zevv&#x2F;bucklespring</a><p>Might even be in the repos depending on your linux distro, e.g apt install bucklespring
yukkuriover 1 year ago
My Unicomp model M is good and I appreciate it daily. Fit and finish are just a little cheaper than an original 1980s IBM (which I also had but it finally died) but it&#x27;s USB and feels good to type on. I actually use the OS key so having that is a plus for me
bosch_mindover 1 year ago
I ordered one of these and returned it instantly. Very cheap and weird compared to nice and modern mechanical keyboards you get today. I really wanted an original model M but didn’t want to deal with weird ps2 conversion stuff.
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geophileover 1 year ago
Hey kids. Stop whining about Model M and Unicomp keyboards being loud.<p>You haven&#x27;t typed on an IBM 029 card punch. That puts a Model M to shame.<p>You haven&#x27;t typed on an original ASR 33 terminal. That puts an IBM 029 card punch to shame.<p>My hearing is shot. I&#x27;m not sure if it&#x27;s the rock music or those old keyboards.
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MrBrobotover 1 year ago
I had one of these exact keyboards (at least the same keycap color scheme, etc). It was actually really pleasant to use, but it was far too large for my liking. I ended up going back to 60% boards with blue switches.
digitalsushiover 1 year ago
I recommend owners purchase an automotive pick set. It&#x27;s given me hundreds of idle-plaything hours stuck on zoom calls, picking dog hairs out from between the keys like a neurosurgeon.
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JKCalhounover 1 year ago
Oh thank God, no RGB LEDs.
paulmdover 1 year ago
have they solved the power-on draw problems?<p>that was the thing that finally soured me on them... my dell optiplex at work couldn&#x27;t reliably handle the power surge especially during soft reboots and had a tendency to hang the whole system. worked fine when I was mostly in the office (and when I had coworkers who could reboot it for me if needed) but once we went WFH I had to have them unplug it until I eventually got my stuff...
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jupp0rover 1 year ago
Love mine. Make sure you have fellow appreciative keyboard nerds around you in the office, muggles will definitely complain.
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nonethewiserover 1 year ago
Unicomp has been around making essentially model M keyboards for a long time. How new is this new one?
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intrasightover 1 year ago
I just notice today when I looked at their web site again that they also have a Mini M
QuinnyPigover 1 year ago
These are the second loudest keyboards I&#x27;ve ever used. The first loudest plays a sound on every keypress (a loud typewriter keypress), with the sound instead changing to me yelling &quot;DING!&quot; whenever that key is &lt;enter&gt;. This is done in software, and I&#x27;m certain everyone who&#x27;s ever had a hand in writing it regrets it.
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_giorgio_over 1 year ago
Keys are too heavy. Model F springs are way better.
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Ditiover 1 year ago
Sigh. Yet another keyboard with the legacy AZERTY French layout and no option for the standardized (AFNOR AZERTY+) layout.
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