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Apple security blunder exposes Lion login passwords in clear text

240 pointsby Emproabout 13 years ago

11 comments

tptacekabout 13 years ago
I can't name a single person who ever used "Legacy Filevault"; that's the "encrypt your home directory" thing from Leopard. This issue doesn't impact Lion FDE at all. Lots of people use Lion FDE.<p>Even the subhed on this story is misleading, and the lede paragraph seems to go out of its way to bury the true article lede, which is "if you're using FileVault home directory encryption, this impacts you" --- instead, it says "in specific configurations".<p>More generally: can anyone name a single case where ZDNet has broken a story we cared about? Even in this case, ZDNet is rehashing stuff published elsewhere earlier.
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greghinchabout 13 years ago
While I agree that this is a security hole and it should be fixed, a headline like that is completely misleading and a scare tactic to drive eyeballs to the article. This flaw only would affect a very small subset of users, but the headline makes it sound like everyone just had their passwords compromised
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Xuzzabout 13 years ago
Note: only applies to people using the old "FileVault" on Lion, not the new "FileVault2" (the one with full-disk encryption).
joshmlewisabout 13 years ago
So are there literally security researchers that go and poke around of every release of everything major in the software industry to find things like this?
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vectorpushabout 13 years ago
Only slightly related, but this thread bears a striking resemblance to another HN exploit discussion:<p><a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3925452" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3925452</a><p>The exact same back and forth:<p>Wow! This is <i>really</i> bad... but it only affects a small subset of users... but they knew about it for months and didn't fix it... come on, nobody real actually <i>uses</i> such a setup... what about me... you're all fanboys, this is just another example of how your religion doesn't hold security as a core tenant among its faithful.
sliverstormabout 13 years ago
Go on, let's hear about how <i>devoted</i> Apple is to security again.
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zobzuabout 13 years ago
Original link: (not zdnet)<p><a href="http://cryptome.org/2012/05/apple-filevault-hole.htm" rel="nofollow">http://cryptome.org/2012/05/apple-filevault-hole.htm</a>
robomartinabout 13 years ago
Does anyone else thing that it is slimy for ZDNet interpret clicks to the site background as the user clicking the ad below the nav-bar?<p>As an advertiser I would feel defrauded. Not one person clicking on the background is doing so out of interest in the advertiser's product.<p>How common is this practice?
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millzlaneabout 13 years ago
Steve called, he said "Just don't use it that way".<p>On a serious note, this has happened before. This is just the first time anyone has caught it before a patch. The QA at Apple is pretty noteworthy.
remixhackerabout 13 years ago
the Console Message Inspector is pretty useful, it shows a lot of stuff that is normally hidden.
thespinabout 13 years ago
I thought FireWire was being phased out. (Doubtfully due to security considerations. If I recall, Intel has something faster that uses a USB port.)<p>I have some older hardware, which was state of the art when I bought it, that uses FW.<p>Is FW going to go the way of PCMCIA and CardBus?
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