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Greybeard's tomb: the lost treasure of language design (2019)

26 pointsby alekqover 1 year ago

5 comments

lifthrasiirover 1 year ago
Like most questionable posts, this post manages to mix some good points with more questionable and often close-to-wrong claims.<p>The most glaring problem is, of course, a fetishism for &quot;independent&quot; and &quot;formal&quot; standards. Standards are just documents that are presented as such, so qualifiers should be significant in order to be meaningful. And yet cited C and Ada standards are <i>not</i> exactly independent nor formal; standard organizations do not write a standard themselves, but appoint working groups and bless their outcomes. I don&#x27;t know much about Ada standards, but the C standard is absolutely affected by major compiler vendors, but not completely. That&#x27;s not an independence, but a democracy that the author seems to dislike? Not to mention that most standards are not that formal, with multiple possible interpretations and resulting incompatibilities.<p>An idea that compilation somehow discourages dependencies is also naive, especially given the history of Windows applications and the infamous term &quot;DLL hell&quot;. It rather hides dependencies and often puts the resulting burden into end users (consider a very large minified JS blob). A clear vision and an active effort can reduce dependencies, regardless of compiled or not---transitive but otherwise unused dependencies are very much common and should be the foremost target after all.
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engfanover 1 year ago
The boy can write. Thanks for the laughs.
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avgcorrectionover 1 year ago
Stodgy C++ opinions (standards!) dressed up with a veneer of irreverence by using adjectives like “retarded”. Bonus points for using Tiobe but like being so ironic about it, dude, which makes it cool.
tudorwover 1 year ago
&#x27;success, popularity, longevity&#x27;, 3 out of 4 aint bad. Yours PHP.
seanvelascoover 1 year ago
at first, i thought this was about the Thu&#x27;um, or the dragon language from the elder scrolls: skyrim.