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Scientists Developed a Tool to Reveal Who's at Risk of Burnout, and It's Free

94 pointsby RafelMriover 1 year ago

23 comments

harimau777over 1 year ago
What&#x27;s the application of all this?<p>I&#x27;m definitely burned out, but my boss doesn&#x27;t care, there&#x27;s no way I can get a better job in this market (even if I had the energy to practice leetcode problems to prepare for interviews), and I&#x27;m not rich enough to just stop working. Therapy, exercise, and medication are only enough to allow me to keep going in this bad situation.
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jawnsover 1 year ago
&gt; &quot;Previously, we have not had a detailed enough measurement tool for use in both the field of practice and research that identifies workers who are at risk of burnout,&quot; says psychologist Leon De Beer, from the Norwegian University of Science and Technology.<p>Have they never heard of the Maslach Burnout Inventory? The MBI measures burnout as defined by the World Health Organization (WHO) and in the ICD-11.<p>It has been around for 35 years, and it is considered the gold standard for measuring burnout.<p>More details here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC6194874&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC6194874&#x2F;</a><p>Edit: Indeed, they <i>have</i> heard of the MBI. It is mentioned in the paper itself: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;onlinelibrary.wiley.com&#x2F;doi&#x2F;10.1111&#x2F;sjop.12996" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;onlinelibrary.wiley.com&#x2F;doi&#x2F;10.1111&#x2F;sjop.12996</a><p>In fact, one of the key hypotheses they explore is how their BAT compares to the MBI. So why in the world would its lead author be saying that it&#x27;s the first of its kind?
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Vinnlover 1 year ago
It worked for a minute for me, but then at the end I got:<p>&gt; Error: Specified target does not exist.<p>&gt; Target: MI_7_second_order_zero_intercepts_predict.out<p>So maybe wait a bit until you make the effort of going through all the questions.<p>(Also note that it asks for your country at the end, and only has the limited list of options mentioned in the article.)
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codegladiatorover 1 year ago
Server at the risk of burnout
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rmbyrroover 1 year ago
&gt; Too Many Users: Sorry, but this application has exceeded its quota of concurrent users. Please try again later.<p>I don&#x27;t understand why people pay a premium to host on Digital Ocean and provide such experiences to users.<p>I&#x27;d bet $1,000 that, with what they&#x27;re paying Digital Ocean to return this message, they could have an 8-core server with at least 32 Gb of RAM on Hetzner, for instance, which could certainly accommodate at least 20x the traffic.
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vjerancrnjakover 1 year ago
App link: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theburnout.app&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theburnout.app&#x2F;</a>
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gonzo41over 1 year ago
Cool. I&#x27;ve been waiting for the blade runner emotion tests to start happening in the tech industry. This is going to be used for evil, I bet someone makes a jira plugin and then sets it to be then end of sprint, post retro personal review task. Which is scored and centrally kept and managed.
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smeejover 1 year ago
Are there people who would bother looking for or taking a test like this if they weren&#x27;t at risk of burnout?
taneqover 1 year ago
We had a command line tool that did this when I was at uni, I think the Linux command you had to type was &#x27;yes&#x27;.
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tytyytytyabout 1 year ago
I scored<p>Specified target does not exist. Target: MI_7_second_order_zero_intercepts_predict.out<p>I&#x27;m not sure what that means.<p>(Though I just got straight 3&#x27;s on my semi-annual work eval again combined with no negative feedback, which doesn&#x27;t surprise me because my boss shot down my proposals and told me to do more lackluster won&#x27;t-be-noticed refactor work, so though I don&#x27;t feel burned out I&#x27;m definitely going to be looking for a new job)<p>Although I would love to have a quick, free, easy, reliable self-reported burnout assessment tool, 1) I doubt the results would surprise me that often and 2) burnout isn&#x27;t the reason why people leave my company most of the time. Typically people leave my company because they&#x27;re ambitious and driven and they&#x27;re seeking faster growth elsewhere.
blueyesabout 1 year ago
Doesn&#x27;t go far enough upstream, in my opinion.<p>There are so many things people can do to increase their neurological energy to affect things like motivation and focus. Much higher leverage than an assessment that will lead to the plablum interventions of wellness teams.
justincliftabout 1 year ago
The main url is over it&#x27;s quota, but it also seems to be available here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;burnoutassessmenttool.be&#x2F;start_eng&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;burnoutassessmenttool.be&#x2F;start_eng&#x2F;</a><p>After going to the &quot;Manual | Publication&quot; page, the actual questions are a PDF.<p>English: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;burnoutassessmenttool.be&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2020&#x2F;08&#x2F;BAT-English.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;burnoutassessmenttool.be&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2020&#x2F;08&#x2F;...</a><p>That doesn&#x27;t have the &quot;what to do with the results&quot; piece though. :(
satokemaover 1 year ago
the app itself is experiencing burnout
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Mozaiabout 1 year ago
&quot;Statistical norms and cut-off values for other countries are currently being developed.&quot;<p>So, currently I can see how burnt-out I am compared to Flemmish office workers. Maybe there I&#x27;m a burn-out husk, but compared to American offices I&#x27;m an average employee.
bborover 1 year ago
lol I’m not sure the tool itself is the point, at least for personal use — isn’t it relative? Based on the diagram the “tool” all these comments are clamoring for seems like a quiz about the demands of and resources for your work. Not exactly a Voight-Kampff test ;)
da39a3eeover 1 year ago
I don&#x27;t understand psychological tests at all. People who want to believe they are at risk of burnout will answer questions in that direction. Isn&#x27;t the whole field an obvious sham?
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giantg2over 1 year ago
Well I found something I score highly on - the MBI.<p>A=38, B= 27, C=18<p>I&#x27;m crushing it lol
andrewSCover 1 year ago
Is there src of this somewhere, where we can self-host?
thrillgoreover 1 year ago
The website is called <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theburnout.app&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theburnout.app&#x2F;</a> and its down.
throwaway743about 1 year ago
It&#x27;s throwing an error at the end. Also only saw around 5-6 options for country selection, none of which were applicable for me.
joquarkyabout 1 year ago
Mesothelioma ads were ubiquitous when I was growing up.<p>I wonder if there will be something similar for burnout once we can measure it.
financltravstyover 1 year ago
Overall burnout: 4.9
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huijzerover 1 year ago
&gt; Too Many Users<p>&gt; Sorry, but this application has exceeded its quota of concurrent users. Please try again later.