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FYI: No JIT on Windows 8 for ARM

126 pointsby schrototoabout 13 years ago

13 comments

josteinkabout 13 years ago
Honest question: Is this any different from on iOS? Are you allowed to create native code-generators on iOS?<p>If not, why do we all of a sudden care about this now?
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TazeTSchnitzelabout 13 years ago
I wonder if Windows 8 will be the death of the Windows platform. Horrible Desktop experience, great Tablet experience but no apps.<p>But if Windows dies, what then can replace it? Will we see another XP, except one that goes unreplaced? Microsoft making a U-Turn?<p>Or possibly, another Operating System? Android? Chrome OS? Ubuntu?<p>Whatever happens, Windows 8, its launch, and aftermath will certainly be interesting, "good" or not.
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bgarbiakabout 13 years ago
For those who read the title and started worrying that JavaScript will return to the stone age of performance: JS <i>will be JIT-compiled on Windows 8 for ARM</i> - but only in IE10. Furthermore, HTML5/Metro apps - unlike similar kind of applications on iOS - <i>will be</i> JIT compiled and hardware accelerated too. Source: <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2012/02/07/high-performance-html5-content-in-metro-style-apps.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2012/02/07/high-performan...</a>
pgeorgiabout 13 years ago
Couldn't the various JIT languages piggyback on the CLR? That is, they wouldn't JIT to ARM, but compile to CLR and then execute that.<p>Of course, that's some mighty overhead for "just one" platform.
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zhwangabout 13 years ago
If this is correct, then this matters <i>much, much</i> more than the sensationalism surrounding browsers on WoA being unable to run as desktop apps.<p>The entire focus of WoA is pretty much Metro-style apps, with Office on the desktop as something on the aside, so why would it matter that another browser can't place itself into the desktop? But if other browsers are actually going to be disadvantaged backend-wise, then that's something to worry about.
laconianabout 13 years ago
Microsoft totally missed the opportunity to make something open and wonderful. Now, we're basically getting iPads, but with bright cyan colors and a chronic inability to fit huge 128pt words on one page. "MUSI" "PICTUR" "SOCIA"
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flexdabout 13 years ago
Are Microsoft actively trying to lose customers? Why would we use this OS when there are open alternatives around?
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codedivineabout 13 years ago
Actually no jit for windows metro apps on x86/64 either
chjabout 13 years ago
Ah.. why MS keep embracing Apple's stupid ideas
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kogirabout 13 years ago
Not entirely true. .Net and JS code on Windows RT will most certainly be JITed. All you need to do is target the CLR or JavaScript runtime.
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throwaway54-762about 13 years ago
"For W8ARM there'll be no … Java"<p>There's always GCJ (<a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/java/" rel="nofollow">http://gcc.gnu.org/java/</a>)!
jherikoabout 13 years ago
I think the OP has jumped to a conclusion.<p>In the worst case you should be able to write a driver using the DDK (some drivers will absolutely need dynamic code) to circumvent the problem.<p>More likely there are things in the huge, in flux and poorly documented API that will let you do it.
chjabout 13 years ago
i thought this is what MS could do better and a good chance for them. But they are doing Apple's doing, how can they compete with iPad then?