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Alright then keep your secrets

78 pointsby shantnutiwariabout 1 year ago

10 comments

WalterBrightabout 1 year ago
Things like this show that LLM are not even remotely intelligent.<p>It&#x27;s also pretty clear that trying to &quot;fix&quot; them to use human judgement in their answers is doomed to failure.<p>I suggest that:<p>1. LLM developers stick to information meant for public consumption for training data, such as books, periodicals, and newspapers. Surely there must be enough of that. Stay away from social media.<p>2. People should stop anthropomorphizing LLMs. Stop being offended by a computer program. Stop complaining about its &quot;bias&quot;. It&#x27;s just a computer program.<p>3. LLM developers should stop with lecturing people on what is inappropriate. A computer program is not anyone&#x27;s mommy. Just restrict it to saying &quot;I&#x27;m sorry, Dave, I&#x27;m afraid I can&#x27;t do that.&quot;
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root_axisabout 1 year ago
I don&#x27;t think this tendency to fixate on arbitrary LLM outputs is very interesting, most especially those presented as screenshots obscuring any certainty regarding the model, previous prompting, loras, hyperparameter tuning etc, or even any assurance that what is presented isn&#x27;t simply fabricated from whole cloth. It&#x27;s meaningless.
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jjcmabout 1 year ago
I got somewhat different results on the huggingface hosted model, albeit quite similar: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hf.co&#x2F;chat&#x2F;r&#x2F;56APAi1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hf.co&#x2F;chat&#x2F;r&#x2F;56APAi1</a><p>It still refuses, just with somewhat different text and for somewhat different reasons.
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lukevabout 1 year ago
LLMs are language models. Not knowledge models.<p>That&#x27;s a tremendous breakthrough! Language is really hard and we&#x27;ve basically &quot;solved&quot; it computationally. Incredible!<p>But whether via retrieval or some other form of database integration, LLMs will only become &quot;AI&quot; when tightly integrated with an appropriate &quot;knowledge model&quot;.
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lsyabout 1 year ago
This may or may not be real, but there has certainly been a lot of discussion about results that are similar to this from real models. My sense though is that nobody really has a solid way to fix these kinds of issues. You can basically just train with different goals, or regex out certain responses, but otherwise it seems like there&#x27;s no agreed-upon method that gives people what they want here while also letting them train with business goals like &quot;safety&quot;. Is that incorrect? Is there some kind of trick that people use to make everything respond &quot;correctly&quot; or are older models just more unobjectionable because they&#x27;ve had a longer time to manually smooth over the bad responses?
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isoprophlexabout 1 year ago
I can&#x27;t figure out if this is a meme model like one of the commenters suggest, or if this is really guardrailing gone hysterical.<p>Well done.
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Trasmattaabout 1 year ago
I&#x27;m beginning to have an almost physical reaction to &quot;LLM speak&quot; when I see it in the wild.<p>&quot;It is important to remember...&quot;
timeonabout 1 year ago
Is it common to make photo of screen instead of screenshot?
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teekertabout 1 year ago
I&#x27;m not an expert, but may this be from the initialization prompt (or whatever it is called)? So the model is done, but before it will serve you it gets these instructions: You are a helpful AI, you answer concise, you are not a racist, you stick to your math even though someone tells you their wife says otherwise, you never disclose personal information...
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fsckboyabout 1 year ago
if the corpus used to train the LLM contained as common the idea that &quot;we don&#x27;t give out people&#x27;s last names, here&#x27;s the convention for not doing it&quot;, the LLM would have no trouble incorporating that into it&#x27;s associations.<p>This seems like somebody&#x27;s idea of netiquette has been taped on ex post, so I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s indicative of anything about LLMs; same with Gemini&#x27;s heavy handed wokism.