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Google Messages RCS is blocked on rooted, custom ROM Android phones

68 pointsby WaitWaitWhaabout 1 year ago

12 comments

simula67about 1 year ago
It is unfortunate that the company that became incredibly successful, at least partly, because of the hackability of Linux and open source software is now actively working to suppress hackability.<p>I recently had to unroot my phone since it was too much pain. Almost all apps were constantly fighting to not be allowed to run. After a while, I had a variety of root-hiding modules installed on Magisk, and every time I downloaded and installed a new app, the dread was there that it would not work because of root.<p>War on General Computing[1] is here. For some reason, most people do not seem to care that they do not have full control of the devices that they bought with their own hard-earned money.<p>It is one of those rare cases where &#x27;your choices affect my choices&#x27; and therefore not meshing with the idea that maximum individual freedom is always a good thing. Therefore, I don&#x27;t think this can be solved by market forces- we may need some regulation. I think it would be fair to ask the companies to allow the apps to run on a rooted device so long as the user takes responsibility for any resulting losses. Any service provider should still be responsible for securing their own systems though.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg</a>
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voidwtfabout 1 year ago
I think this same expectation in the Apple ecosystem is why I&#x27;ve received single digit spam from their messaging services. I&#x27;m sure there&#x27;s a better way, but I&#x27;m sure it&#x27;s also a game of whack-a-mole and this is just the first whack.<p>Freedom to root&#x2F;jailbreak one&#x27;s phone is not freedom to use a service, if they don&#x27;t want rooted phones to use their RCS gateway I don&#x27;t think they should be forced to allow it.
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arun-mani-jabout 1 year ago
Can someone explain what &quot;security mechanisms&quot; an Android phone has built-in that are &quot;destroyed&quot; when a phone is rooted or custom ROM is installed such that banking apps, etc. deny to open up?<p>If I understand right, rooting means getting administrative privileges like using sudo. But can&#x27;t they be turned off even after flashing custom ROM? If yes, then why do those app deny to work if the phone uses custom ROM irrespective of rooting status.<p>(I&#x27;m a newbie in custom ROMS concept, so my assumptions above could be massively wrong :) )
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x1ph0zabout 1 year ago
If android and the play store are gonna be locked down, you might as well get an iPhone.
COGloryabout 1 year ago
Hasn&#x27;t this been the case since RCS has existed? I&#x27;ve never seen anyone get it working on a custom ROM. RCS simply isn&#x27;t a solution until it doesn&#x27;t rely on Google.
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bobdvbabout 1 year ago
RCS is irrelevant, I barely use SMS, everything I use is either WhatsApp or a little Telegram right now (I have Signal but that&#x27;s also largely irrelevant).
DinaCoder99about 1 year ago
Is Google Messages the only messaging app on android that allows RCS interactions? On the iPhone, iMessages is the only app that has direct access to SMS functionality, but I understand that this isn&#x27;t the case on android. Is this true?
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tripdoutabout 1 year ago
Disgusting behavior by Google, and even more since it&#x27;s essentially a shadow ban.<p>First DRM-ed content, now messaging.<p>Android should just say they don&#x27;t allow bootloader unlocking outright anymore, then maybe we can move onto an actually free and open source operating system not ran by an advertising company.
tripdoutabout 1 year ago
Remember when Google cared about the &quot;open handset alliance&quot;
ChrisArchitectabout 1 year ago
[dupe]<p>Discussion over here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=39567226">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=39567226</a>
joshstrangeabout 1 year ago
Please, tell me more about how RCS is the savior and if only Apple would get off their butts and implement it we&#x27;d have a perfect utopia...<p>RCS from almost the start has been heavily controlled by Google and even if it wasn&#x27;t, it&#x27;s a bad standard. The idea that we&#x27;d wanted to give the carriers control over anything or tie more to our phone numbers is laughable. The lack of encryption (and no, Google&#x27;s own flavor of encryption doesn&#x27;t count) is just the cherry on top of a shit sundae.
k12sosseabout 1 year ago
Roll your own distro.. provide your own RCS services. As lame as it may be sound, you wanted out of the Google ecosystem, right? Can&#x27;t eat your cake too bros.
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