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Colombia's Special Word for "You"

31 pointsby elijahparkerabout 1 year ago

8 comments

savqabout 1 year ago
(Person that actually uses sumercé here.)<p>The article is reading way too much into it, and it forgets a very important piece of information: The origin of <i>usted</i> is &quot;vuestra merced&quot;. Spanish had T-V distinction, like most romance languages, but <i>usted</i> superceded <i>vos</i> as the formal 2nd person pronoun.<p><i>sumercé</i> is a word that had the same process, just starting from &quot;su merced&quot; instead, since in Colombia —like in all other latin american countries— <i>vosotros</i> is not used.<p>That&#x27;s it.
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Gualdrapoabout 1 year ago
Not all of Colombia uses that word - it&#x27;s more of a thing of an specific region. My parents were born there, but as they were brought to Bogotá in an early age, they barely use it. Though I use it more than them as I feel it conveys more sincerity than the &quot;official&quot; ones (tú, usted).<p>Weirdly enough, some colombians seem to despise this word or look down on us who use it.
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naragabout 1 year ago
So I&#x27;ll add another fading oddity from my own hometown in the south of Spain. We use <i>ustedes</i> (short of very archaic &quot;vuestras mercedes&quot; BTW) instead of <i>vosotros</i>.<p>That would seem not so odd, being <i>ustedes</i> the plural form of formal &quot;you&quot; <i>usted</i>, if not because <i>ustedes</i> should match &quot;they&quot; in verbal forms, while in fact it match plural &quot;you&quot;. So no &quot;ustedes saben&quot; but &quot;ustedes sabéis&quot;.<p>Even usted&#x2F;ustedes is fading away, TV is so powerful. But I still hear that when back there for holidays.
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guessmynameabout 1 year ago
AFAIK, only old people say that, and only in the region of Cundinamarca (Bogotá).<p>That is a very-very small number of people to write such an article, haha.
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daquisuabout 1 year ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;UlZUR" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;UlZUR</a>
subpixelabout 1 year ago
I sent this to my Colombian in-laws and it has started an argument between them about whether it actually means “your mercy” at all.
woliveirajrabout 1 year ago
In Brazil: vossa merce -&gt; vosmecê -&gt; você (you).
4gotunameagainabout 1 year ago
&gt; We are having trouble retrieving the article content.<p>&gt; Please enable JavaScript in your browser settings.<p>Should be illegal