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Adding Systemd to PostmarketOS

56 pointsby MartijnBraamabout 1 year ago

12 comments

SuperNinKenDoabout 1 year ago
I'm actually really excited about this. With all the things on a phone that are constantly switching on and off, connecting and reconnecting and disconnecting and moving, etc. etc. Systemd's dependency management, etc. seems like a no-brainer. Sorry to the Systemd haters, I do get it, I don't like how programs are baking in Systemd dependency either, but to me, it's a big step in the right direction for modern computing init systems.
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theamkabout 1 year ago
nice! Two systemd features that would (IMHO) be especially useful in cell phones are:<p>- socket activation (as post says, &quot;print from your phone without having CUPS running all the time&quot;)<p>- extra security. Many daemons drop privileges, but how many of them also isolate filesystem and install seccomp filters? With systemd, it could be &quot;every one&quot;
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infogulchabout 1 year ago
&quot;systemd is a microkernel&quot; - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;mycoliza&#x2F;status&#x2F;1765058565956587757" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;mycoliza&#x2F;status&#x2F;1765058565956587757</a>
captn3m0about 1 year ago
It doesn’t actually answer the libc question.<p>&gt; Our current understanding having spoken to systemd developers is that we should be able to find a path that brings us much closer to upstream, if not entirely.<p>What’s the path here? Running glibc on Alpine?
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colinsaneabout 1 year ago
would love to see tighter collaboration between pmOS and sxmo maintainers on this one. sxmo is sort of a pmOS-exclusive right now because it does all its own service management. seems like a great opportunity while pmOS is rethinking its service management to do it in a way that helps sxmo be more multi-distro capable.
hiAndrewQuinnabout 1 year ago
Oh hell yeah! The cell phone server idea just became a lot more viable for this Sysadmin.
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sam_lowry_about 1 year ago
Hm... time to move to bare Alpine for my Pinebook Pro.<p>I do not really need Gnome nor KDE.
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lprovenabout 1 year ago
Dupe: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=39624181">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=39624181</a> (0 comments)
palataabout 1 year ago
It seems like the biggest reason is &quot;KDE and GNOME need systemd, so we need systemd&quot;.<p>In other words, systemd is winning because systemd is winning. Not because it&#x27;s better.
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AdmiralAsshatabout 1 year ago
&gt; Is Alpine cool with this?<p>&gt; We have shared this blog post with the Alpine devs before this publication, and we hope that they understand our reasoning.<p>So then they weren&#x27;t cool with it, huh?
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johneaabout 1 year ago
Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated...
foulabout 1 year ago
&quot;Our current understanding having spoken to systemd developers is that we should be able to find a path that brings us much closer to upstream, if not entirely.&quot;<p>Adapt or don&#x27;t offer GNOME&#x2F;KDE (get fscked), classic Red Hat!