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Do we know enough about the safety of quat disinfectants? (2020)

55 pointsby luuabout 1 year ago

8 comments

amlutoabout 1 year ago
There are related compounds that people regularly expose themselves to in <i>much</i> higher concentrations: behentrimonium chloride, cetrimonium chloride, and the same cations paired with other anions. They’re used in hair products, apparently in concentrations above 5%.<p>For those who, as the article describes, think they’re maybe harmless unless inhaled, you can buy hair detangling sprays. Maybe you’re supposed to only use them outdoors while hearing a very well-fitting mask?
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Mistletoeabout 1 year ago
I was thinking yesterday how 70% ethanol is like the perfect disinfectant and we don’t use it. It’s what we used when working in sterile conditions when I was a scientist. You certainly wouldn’t use quat disinfectants to spray your gloves before working in a hood. You’d know it would probably get in your experiment and mess it up. Ethanol is perfect, it evaporates and leaves nothing. I assume we don’t use ethanol because people would drink it, or it costs too much. Both aren’t great reasons when safety is what you are throwing out.
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kwhitefootabout 1 year ago
Why do so many people need so many disinfectants? I get by with chlorine bleach for the toilet once in a while. Just ordinary cleanliness and some detergent seems sufficient to me.<p>I never use fabric softeners either.
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ComputerGuruabout 1 year ago
From 2020. I wonder if there have been updates.
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keikobadthebadabout 1 year ago
From Aug 2020
zoklet-enjoyerabout 1 year ago
We use this stuff to mop the floors where I work. Hmm
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CodeWriter23about 1 year ago
Of course we do, we have no evidence of harm.
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londons_exploreabout 1 year ago
I really want to see stuff like this tested in massive cohorts (ie. 1 billion+ participants) via variable dosing.<p>Here&#x27;s how it would work:<p>* Companies that make products would randomly increase by 5% or decrease by 5% the dosage of each ingredient in a product headed to a specific town.<p>* The government would publish A&#x2F;B groupings for every town in the US and every chemical they track.<p>* Average health data would be collected, and whenever a specific chemicals A&#x2F;B group difference exceeds some threshold, investigation is done.<p>The main downside is production costs of products goes up, since every product will now have a final step of adding all the A&#x2F;B adjustment doses to the bottle before sealing. But I believe this is worth it for rooting out chemicals that have low level yet very widespread negative effects.
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