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Ask HN: How to identify value and how to create one?

18 pointsby findingMeaningabout 1 year ago
Recently, I&#x27;ve been meaning to do some valuable tasks. What seems valuable to me is never valuable to others. As a result, I end up not doing anything. How can I do something meaningful? Pretty lost after LLMs and GenAI. All the value I could provide is equivalent to what these models do. So I am really trying to find something meaningful and inspiring. Please feel free to suggest as you wish.<p>For context, you are helping a 29 yo with zero experience in the industry. All this person has is some postgraduate degree in CS and a few internships. Currently unemployed. Trying to break into business or career.

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meristohmabout 1 year ago
I&#x27;m in my 40s, aimless most of my life, have been unemployed, and these are the actions I find valuable:<p>-Helping others learn and grow (teaching, tutoring, parenting)<p>-making useful things and either giving them away or selling for enough that both parties feel like they got a good deal<p>-gardening<p>-exploring the land<p>-hunting<p>-foraging<p>-cutting down a tree for firewood, but not just any tree; thinning the woodlot (on land that still has skeletons of old-growth Douglas-fir) all the remaining trees have room to grow big and strong<p>-learning to communicate with other people in their native language<p>-helping older folks with their tech questions, again either for free or for a sum we&#x27;re both happy with (while I have a job with a government entity, I don&#x27;t work full time or for enough money to support my family- my wife has the full-time career we survive on, and I support by homemaking and being the on-call parent for our school-age child with disabilities, two other actions that are valuable)<p>I considered a career in software development, but it&#x27;s too far away from the land. I love to explore- in Richard Bartle&#x27;s classifications I&#x27;m almost entirely Explorer in videogames, but I&#x27;ve finally kicked the gaming habit and my activities are closer to my basic needs, not layers away like the system we&#x27;re in promotes. Computers are temporary. They&#x27;re really interesting, but ultimately meaningless. What really matters is feeling at home on the land (including shelter, either in one place or as you go), feeding your body good food from healthy land and water, and being part of a tight-knit community.<p>As much as I love my public library and reading books, I have grown to accept those as luxurious layers we&#x27;ve made at the expense of other life on earth. I&#x27;d be happy with conversation and oral storytelling, given a healthy-enough ecosystem to support me and my community.
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freeqazabout 1 year ago
Give the book &quot;The Mom Test&quot; a read. It helps a lot with finding ways to &quot;create value&quot; when you&#x27;re stuck. Combine that with &quot;The Lean Startup&quot; and you can build a quick iteration cycle for testing ideas out.<p>If you&#x27;re interested, I&#x27;m happy to dive deeper into this. Fortunately these skills are absolutely ones that you can learn! Being technical is the harder bit :)
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deterministicabout 1 year ago
I highly recommend not caring about what others value. Unless the only thing <i>you</i> are passionated about is to make $.<p>Instead notice what makes you excited. And whatever it is do more of it. It doesn’t matter if it is gardening or reading or painting or whatever.<p>You <i>might</i> be able to start a business focused on what you are excited about or get a job getting paid to do what you love. That’s what I did. I used to be deeply passionated about games development so that made my career choices super easy. However most people are not that lucky.<p>So focus on what excites you. And if that is not $ valuable then pick a career that minimises your misery and lets you do what you truly care about when not working.<p>You can’t force yourself to be passionated about things you don’t really care about.
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bhu1stabout 1 year ago
Building things that you find valuable gives you a way to put your unique perspective and skills gained from your CS degree and internships into real world. Being hands-on will boost your job prospects or create business for you. I recommend to just get started and see how it unfolds.
sk11001about 1 year ago
For a start, you can try speaking about real things - are you working? are you selling something? are you running a business? what do you want?
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simon_accaabout 1 year ago
Github issues are an infinite well of tasks that people find valuable, and they make for a great portfolio too
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snyenaabout 1 year ago
If they are willing to pay you for it I think you are on the right track.
VoodooJuJuabout 1 year ago
Live and work in the value. Like in industry. Only way to know. The years of coming up with cool things and just building cool shit are over. You need to know exactly who you&#x27;re selling to, exactly what problem it solves, and exactly how much they&#x27;re willing to pay.
walollaabout 1 year ago
Meaningful is often a very flexible term, depending on the situation and the circumstances it&#x27;s definition can change a lot. For example, when working in a small start-up the development velocity is crucial, because you have limited resources and no revenue to support you, so building something that works is more important than building it perfectly. It&#x27;s a very generic explanation, but what I&#x27;m trying to say, is that there are always reasons for everything and they often form a long chain of causes, that are hard to see sometimes. But let&#x27;s try to tackle some of your concerns.<p>Finding a job right now, especially without a lot of experience is hard, in my understanding, the main reason is that the companies at the moment are not ready to invest a lot of resources in new developers and would rather find someone with experience. If you are looking for job, try making something practical, like a pet-project, that would show your skills directly. Find some people with more experience, first of all, you can learn from them and secondly, they can reference you as someone they know, who might be a good fit in their company, that level of trust can be very important and help you a lot. And of course, keep learning, there will always be something you don&#x27;t know and it&#x27;s okay, the question is how your approach it, if you are willing to push yourself out of your comfort zone and get more exposure to different things, your opinions can become more valuable.<p>About AIs and stuff like that, your code is just a tool for solving problems, but what is unique to you is how you approach these problems, how you think about them, of course, if all you can do is build CRUDs by following precise instructions it won&#x27;t be very valuable. Basically, work smarter, not harder, it&#x27;s not the amount of code you can write, but the reasoning behind it.<p>Okay, let&#x27;s say you landed a job, congrats, but you still feel useless. In such cases, for me, it&#x27;s always communication, in a decent team you should be rewarded for asking &quot;how can I be better?&quot; or &quot;what should I do differently?&quot;, because it means that you want to grow and be better, therefore providing more value to the company. Don&#x27;t be afraid to talk to people, ask for advice and learn from their mistakes.<p>I&#x27;m sure you will get there, just don&#x27;t stop trying to improve yourself and your surroundings, at some point, hopefully soon, someone will recognize your efforts and potential value.<p>I know that this response was kind of chaotic and I&#x27;m sorry for that. It&#x27;s just a slice of my thoughts not long after waking up. If all of this seems to broad and generic, try to specify on one topic, like &quot;but how should I approach X&quot; or &quot;what can I improve in Y&quot;, I&#x27;m sure you will get a lot of relevant recommendations. Best of luck, buddy!
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