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Ask HN: Is CVS (Concurrent Versions System) Dead? Long Live CVS

6 pointsby shnkrabout 1 year ago
We&#x27;re mostly a monorepo shop and cvs is serving us well, given the scale and branches. Git wasn&#x27;t there so I guess the founding members went with cvs. Till now there was no need felt even though attempts were made.<p>The problem is with modern tools and IDEs having zero support. The love for Git went extreme levels it seems. I felt to show some love for cvs and decide to build a &quot;Git For Visual Studio&quot; but for &quot;cvs&quot;.<p>Microsoft standardized SCC interface for IDEs (SCCI provider) so I felt my job as easy and visualized replacing git in VS with cvs. To my surprise, it looks like MS has abandoned MSSCCI support and following the docs didn&#x27;t help my POC.<p>Once I was able to get it up and running, I found it doesn&#x27;t support much of the functionality like history, blame. Just basics like &#x27;Add Project to Source Control&#x27;, &#x27;Checkout&#x27;, &#x27;Checkin&#x27;. I thought plugging in the interface will give me the same diff and history interface. Why would MS develop such a useless interface for such an important piece of soft.<p>After spending a week of time, I realized there is no way than to write an extension (vsix) from scratch with all the support which I felt as duplicate, so abandoned my efforts.<p>I hope I won&#x27;t cross my path again with cvs \m&#x2F;

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kazinatorabout 1 year ago
In 2002 I wrote a Lisp program called Meta-CVS. It uses CVS to store files in a certain format, which allows versioning of the directory structure, symbolic links and permissions. As well, it has a &quot;mcvs grab&quot; command for importing snapshots of external code such that renames are identified. Plus it has merge automation with tracking. Plus interactive workflow when creating a repo, for identifying binary files and whatnot.<p>The support for renaming in Meta-CVS blows git out of the water (since that basically doesn&#x27;t have any).<p>People continuing with CVS crazy not to be at least using Meta-CVS to make their lives easier.<p>I used Meta-CVS once to clean up a mess. In the company I was working on, my friend, a configuration manager, came to me with a problem: merging some large amount of Java cruft from a branch where the developers did various renames. Not just A to B renames, but cyclic renames A.java renamed to B.java, while B.java renamed to C.java, while C.java again renamed to A! (Would you believe it.) This had to be merged to the trunk.<p>I whipped out Meta-CVS for the task. &quot;mcvs grab&quot; easily identified the rotating renames and merged the content, which we were then able to check into the VC actually being used (might have been SVN).
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hgs3about 1 year ago
I don&#x27;t think any technology ever really &quot;dies&quot; CVS included. There are shops using perforce (a proprietary centralized version control system) as their SCM.<p>It is true CVS is less popular in open source, but I think that has more to do with code hosting providers either not supporting it or dropping support (BitBucket dropped support some years back).
mattlabout 1 year ago
OpenBSD is a huge CVS repo and has been working on got (sic) as a potential alternative.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gameoftrees.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gameoftrees.org&#x2F;</a>
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