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Average worker now logs off at 4 p.m. on Fridays

70 pointsby mjiabout 1 year ago

16 comments

PessimalDecimalabout 1 year ago
The graph shows a significant shift in behavior (not just on Fridays) in Q1 2023, i.e. when many many companies initiated mass layoffs. I'm not surprised, as this lines up with my own observations in personal life. After that, many remaining employees reevaluated their relationships with their employers and with work in general.
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numbsafariabout 1 year ago
When I was in High School, back in the 90s, I took a “business management” class. The teacher had been an auditor on Wall Street, and still maintained some side work as a tax accountant for some wealthy clientele.<p>Every Friday, he came in with a copy of the Wall Street Journal, wearing his usual expertly tailored suit, sat at his desk in the front of the room, and asked the class “What day is it?” The class would answer in unison, “Its Friday”. “And what happens on Friday?”, he’d ask, to which we would all dutifully chant: “Absolutely nothing.”<p>He’d open his paper and we had the rest of period to do whatever, so long as it didn’t result in him being interrupted.<p>White collar fucking off on Fridays is nothing new.
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ricardobeatabout 1 year ago
&gt; Productivity dips on Fridays — especially in the afternoon — whether workers are in offices or at home, researchers at Texas A&amp;M found<p>The study in question is from the 2017-2018 period which kind of breaks the premise of the whole article.<p>Also from the same study, to nobody&#x27;s surprise:<p>&gt; The study’s findings suggest that fatigue and stress can accumulate throughout the workweek, potentially leading to decreased productivity, particularly on Fridays
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xystabout 1 year ago
the 9-5 is dead.<p>My hours are more like 8-2 or 9-1. Sometimes I log off after lunch.<p>Remote work is awesome. No more dealing with impatient dick heads on the road. No more contributing to the destruction of the local environment via tail pipe emissions or tire wear particles. More importantly more time to spend with family, friends, or personal projects. Overall happiness is increased.<p>I’ll never understand the reasonings behind forced RTO. Is it a hidden financial gain for CEOs to fill the offices? Is it a false flag op to “appease” stock holders (“hey guys pandemic over, we are working to returning to normal. Pardon any poor quarterly results for the year”)?<p>Leaked Amazon doc shows reduced physical office footprint saved company billions.<p>All data is showing forced RTO policies are counter intuitive and counter productive.
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bluefishinitabout 1 year ago
4 day work weeks are the way to go. When I have 3 consecutive days to relax I&#x27;m 100% more recharged then when I have two. It&#x27;s not even close.
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jnainaabout 1 year ago
Hmm...In this new era of mostly WFH, the boundaries between work and life are blurring, at least for me. My work day starts at 8AM and goes all the way to around 12PM, with my other daily life chores&#x2F;activities interleaved throughout the day.<p>Even during weekends, I put aside hours replying to lower priority emails and completing other work commitments that may have piled up from the week before.<p>If anything, this WFH movement has led to more hours worked&#x2F;higher productivity for me (and my immediate colleagues).
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rayxi271828about 1 year ago
The biggest thing about the whole commute is the delayed negative impact to health in general.<p>This is of course worse in Asian cities with super congested traffic. When you spend 2-3 hours&#x2F;day commuting, it becomes very hard to maintain a regular workout schedule.<p>A commute time of perhaps 20 minutes one way is manageable. Anything beyond that simply eats into your quality of life, really.
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jawnsabout 1 year ago
The article doesn&#x27;t say whether the tracked workers are hourly or salaried, but it makes a big difference.<p>The article also doesn&#x27;t touch on total hours worked during the week, but that makes a big difference, too.<p>If hourly workers are logging off early on Friday, it could be because they&#x27;ve already put in enough hours earlier in the week that they&#x27;d be veering into overtime territory if they were to work late on Friday, and so it&#x27;s their employer, rather than them, who is making the call.<p>But if it&#x27;s salaried workers who are logging off early on Friday, it&#x27;s likely because they recognize that working late on a Friday isn&#x27;t actually going to accomplish much (especially if others are leaving early, too) and so it&#x27;s not worth putting in the extra time.
mikhailfrancoabout 1 year ago
When I worked in the UK in the 1980s, lunchtimes were occupied with one of two activities...<p>Monday-Thursday, we would go for a run, often alone on our individual schedules, but sometimes in a group. The target was a pub a few miles away. We would sprint down the hill, touch the pub, and run back up to the site. It was a serious pursuit, there was a fiercely contested leader-board maintained in the office. New junior hires were challenged to beat the old-beards - many of which were ex-military, very proud, and very hard to beat.<p>Friday, we would would drive to a pub (occasionally the same <i>hallowed</i> turn, but often some other local hostelry), have a long lunch, drink a few beers (most of us did not have to drive home), and discuss old times, new technology, big projects, legendary deadlines that were beaten, and stories about sport or running. What was left of Friday afternoon was just tidying-up work and a some admin, combined with a little chit-chat about the venues and parties that would occupy the weekend.
ketanmaheshwariabout 1 year ago
I was at Nvidia GTC and attended a panel about AI regulation where one of the panelist was a local congressman from bay area. He said to the effect that he is an avid supporter of the 4-day work week and that AI may just be the catalyst for the shift to go mainstream.<p>I think it is high time the society looks into this as a way for it to be more productive as counterintuitive as it may sound.
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add-sub-mul-divabout 1 year ago
Since WFH started I&#x27;ve come to find it futile to expect much of anything to happen after lunch on Fridays.
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tra3about 1 year ago
When do people log on?<p>I know after going fully remote I started working earlier in the day.
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crooked-vabout 1 year ago
That late? Wow.
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xtiansimonabout 1 year ago
And what about M, T, W, and&#x2F;or Th work to 8 or 9?
hn2xabout 1 year ago
interesting, how about we check the stats next friday?
kkfxabout 1 year ago
Few random notes to help me through a discussion (if happen) trying to form a coherent picture:<p>- observation 1 :: it&#x27;s nothing new we tend to work less, there are studies divided by cohort of age for instance stating newer generations do work less, engage less than older ones for instances (sorry I do not have a link at hand) and it&#x27;s not new the sentiment &quot;we work to live, not live to work&quot;, I generally add that before people know they can get more working more, for the entire life, i.e. people know they can slowly improve their lives working hard. With the declared WEF agenda &quot;in 2030 you&#x27;ll own nothing&quot;, with evident push toward smart-cities populated of evident de-facto slaves who are bound in an assembly line, earning to live, consuming all they earn in services they need, no heritage, no ownership, anything is decided outside the smart-city&#x2F;forced labor camp and those inside are just obedient slaves those who think this will happen feel NO REASON to work since their work can&#x27;t improve their condition for their life and get passed to newer generations;<p>- observation 2 :: despite a very obscene business-driven digital evolution against the civil society, tailored to reach the no-ownership, no-competence, no-future slaves model, a real Fordlandia, not Telosa, Arkadag, Prospera, Innopolis, tomorrow NY, SF, ... things start to be digital a little bit, meaning a gazillion of classic tasks that classically demand much work to be done now are quick or even automated, in other terms we need to work much less in various fields, and managers cray in tears that less enslaved workers start to care about their life as people not they work-life as life;<p>- observation 3 :: there is a dichotomy in our society between &quot;those from the old generation&quot; who reject the digital world, generally oppressed by those who rightly push digitization BUT for their own economical and political agendas against all the others and those who feel the potential power of the digital model but cry against the &quot;old generation&quot; who fighting it allow it&#x27;s evolution in a way AGAINST the most instead of unite and pretend a good evolution for all, this create an immense amount of stress between two cohort and as a result fatigue, those from &quot;the old generation&quot; are tired of the modern life, those from the &quot;digital&quot; one are tired of a slow and bad evolution due to a small cohort of kleptocrats and a large cohort of luddites, and both cohorts can&#x27;t fight their enemies, giving up instead &quot;in the end we will all be dead&quot; or &quot;pulvis sumus et in pulverem reverteris&quot;;<p>To solve this issue the recipe for me is clear: we need to envisage a good future. We need to own our life, so we need deurbanization not in the USA model of suburbs but in the &quot;Riviera model&quot; of the EU, meaning spread homes AND workspace intermixed, with a string push to the home office, meaning homes where most people work and live in the same place, NOT just from remote, meaning a dentist have a home at II floor and it&#x27;s cabinet at I floor, customers came from one side, personal life on the other, laundry have the working area in the basement, the residential area upstairs and so on, for eligible professions, while small buildings at short distance do the rest and only few districts exists, heading as much as possible to the dark factory model for the rest we can&#x27;t do otherwise so far. This model is a nightmare for the 1% because service and enslavement industry plunge on it, no one buy the sharing economy, no one choose Uber or JustEat in this model and so on, people understand the value of ownership and do not want to came back, while terrifies the most because they fear the change and the responsibility of ownership, being slaves means having nothing to think, not feeling the pressure of the commandment and most aren&#x27;t really adult enough to self-organize their lives. But that&#x27;s is. This is the best model, potentially very easy to adapt to a changing world IMVHO.<p>Keeping up today trends we will end up in a broken dystopi than can&#x27;t last longer.
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