Not surprised at all. This and the Humane Pin both seemed like a quick cash grab before phones integrated all the new AI goodness. I'm expecting we'll see that window close by the time I/O and WWDC wrap up this year, so they had to move fast.
I implemented my own DIY version of Rabbit at a hackathon using Playwright and VNC. I feel extremely validated that they use the same things that I thought of.
According to their CTO in the Discord[0]:<p>> If someone spends enough time with the login minions they can extract these code. But these code are locked down and are sanitized. LAM lives elsewhere. This is someone looking at the rabbit hole not understanding how it works. And tries to be smart.<p>[0]: <a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185274946981732374/1232410511652687902/IMG_8101.png?ex=66295b3b&is=662809bb&hm=929befc438ea4ca2e7d459a1ef1b2a3caa562e9d0597e8472316af396672e021&" rel="nofollow">https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185274946981732374/1...</a>
I really think this + the humane AI pin would be super interesting products if they made them hackable. The hardware is super cool, no problem if the software isn't there yet, it's not like they're being sold at Best Buy, I'm not worried about my mom acquiring one of these and getting her passwords leaked. Who cares if the auth flow is super hacky/insecure? Let us self host it! Let the community create more playwright scripts!
I'm really into AI stuff but both the AI Pin and Rabbit R1 underwhelm. They are products that don't need to exist if the problem they're solving was truly solvable right now, because the best place for that problem to be solved is already in our hands: our phones. But we're not all talking to AI assistants in our phones all day. Why? Because the technology isn't good enough to do it yet? Because people don't want to talk to digital assistants? Once the tech is good enough that it can motivate ordinary people to look silly talking to their phones outloud, it'll be on our phones and easy to use, and there will be no need for kitschy little handheld devices. No one wants to carry around another device.<p>That said, smart glasses sound like a great idea to me, but I wear glasses all ay long, so I am extremely biased. I don't think most people want to voluntarily wear glasses to just put a computer on their face, so I wouldn't bet on glasses, either. Sorry, Zuck.
> In reality, they're simply relying on several Playwright automation scripts to do the job for you, which is why they only support four apps: Spotify, Midjourney, Doordash, and UberEats.<p>I think that part is mostly fine? I'd rather make give a LLM access to <a href="https://woob.tech" rel="nofollow">https://woob.tech</a> to be my personal assistant while parsing 99% less noise, than have a LLM that parse and understand stupidly complicated web pages, and randomly fail at the task because the name of my doctor is bobby drop tables.<p>That being said, it can be interesting to use LLMs to assist creating woob plugins.
I just couldn't fathom the big three phone platforms not implementing this on a device that we all have and is capable of same if-not better dynamic voice integration.<p>At the very least, I hope products like the Rabbit spur these companies to start innovating again. Even if they are smoke & mirrors, the interest shows there's demand for these features.<p>Site Note: I've noticed Google Home's voice assistant has declined over time -- it used to handle complex queries and now it can barely understand simple directions. It used to understand me perfectly in the noisiest environments and now it makes many transcribing errors.
For an open source alternative, check out <a href="https://github.com/OpenAdaptAI/OpenAdapt">https://github.com/OpenAdaptAI/OpenAdapt</a>. We combine Segment Anything Model with GPT4-V to understand recordings of workflows in desktop user interfaces, then replay them according to the user's instructions.
why are people surprised they use playwright? how do they imagine a lam would work? in the end an "action" would always have to come as a computer command, be it an api call, or function call generation, an "action" is code to be executed. transformers generate tokens and only tokens, it is up to you to decide how you want the flow of tokens to be. i find the use of playwright quite clever, you could use puppeteer and make it write scripts for web browsing as well, but in the end an action will always come back to computer code, written as text as a human would do. the fact they use playwright does not imply it is not generative ai, on the contrary it is a clever way of showcasing how to configure a transformer to bypass an api lock-in such as the midjourney one.
They gave 12 months perplexity pro with it - and I am already a subscriber. So, I basically paid a bit extra for another 12 months and a rabbit r1 to play with.<p>If it doesn't work how I want, I should be able to sell on whilst keeping the perplexity pro sub.
I thought the idea of the Rabbit R1 was cool. I have a strong feeling this will end up like the Humane Pin, which is sad. I'm glad companies are trying something different.<p>I'd love to be able to use my phone hands free without having to look at it, and interface with ChatGPT/Claude/whatever but I am not sure if it's possible? Siri works very poorly and is unreliable. I'd like to be able to use an LLM as a personal assistant. Set timers, call people, message people, but also be able to ask questions like the voice chat function in the ChatGPT app. Maybe one day!
I never understood the appeal outside the cute form-factor, all of the demos were absolutely terrible.<p>an aside : npr doesn't like the 'spade' comment, although I think the explanation is kind of iffy.[0]<p>[0]: <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/09/19/224183763/is-it-racist-to-call-a-spade-a-spade" rel="nofollow">https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/09/19/224183763...</a>
Rabbit R1 was such a dumb product. You have to buy a proprietary piece of plastic to use some flavor of chat GPT.<p>Never encountered a person with one.
One of the bizarre talking points in defense of the existence of rabbit was to get away from our phones. It's just completely inexplicable to me because it's not like it was ever intended to be a replacement, the only difference is congratulations you now have to lug around two separate brick shaped appliances wherever you go...
Maybe they hacked together something that can feasibly me marketed as an AI-assistant knowing that whatever they build now will get "steamrolled" by GPT-5 (Sam's words, not mine). When GPT-5 gets released, update the OS and it'll work as advertised... EZ-PZ!
Pretty much in-line with my expectations. I ordered one because I thought the design was neat, and I was interested in hacking around and flashing my own stuff onto it. The pricing was clearly at or below cost.<p>Looking at just the concept (and ignoring execution), I don't really see the point of this thing? The whole thing is a feature that could exist on a smartphone. The dream of an AI agent that you can converse with to replace your smartphone could be compelling, but nowhere close to reality yet. Even then, the big smartphone OS companies are obviously better positioned for this. The smartphone is the hub for all your information, plus they have years of voice assistant, automation, and home IoT integration to build off of.<p>Humane was silly because it was a smartwatch without any of the proper software support, but Rabbit is essentially doing the same but targeting a smartphone replacement. If you really want to break out and try to dethrone smartphone vendors, you'll have to come up with something more compelling than a worse user interface to a poorly made software platform. That's a software feature you're building.<p>In some sense, I do think Rabbit had a better approach than Humane, though. Getting a bunch of low-priced "toy" devices into the market that are just a frontend to your server software could get you off the ground. The software needs to exist, though...
Who cares how its made if you can make a bag from it before anyone is the wiser? The point in all this stuff is to make bags of money, whatever way you can do that don't matter as long as you gettin the bread.
If it can do what it claims to do, which is automate on top of existing apps by your voice, whats the difference? Seems innovative regardless of the tech underneath.
Why did they upload the code to some random site instead of GitHub?<p>EDIT:<p>> But let's call a spade a spade – this is a blatant lie. And we're about to expose it with the first partial release of the source code for its so-called "large action model".<p>FYI, Text to Action is possible. I personally tested a couple of apps, but I don't think anything reliable exists like we humans.<p>I would not disregard what they claim is completely false.
Taken down, now archived here: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20240423183114/https://github.com/rabbitscam/rabbitr1" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20240423183114/https://github.co...</a>
Please upload source in an unzipped format. If the concern is about GitHub taking it down, use an alternative. There's plenty and many other ways to distribute source in an uncompressed manner.<p>Otherwise this is indistinguishable from a hack. How do I know these zips are secure? The mega and pixeldrain report different sizes. Rabbit is entirely about hype and a scam, how are we supposed to know this isn't the same nefarious ploy?<p>I appreciate what's being done and think it's good to call out these scams (I've done so myself) but help by building some trust. We understand the need for anonymity but a nefarious actor could just as easily mascaraed as the same repo. And if you do need files downloaded, provide hashes.<p>(Fwiw, xz, despite recent events, is great at compression and can help you reduce your bandwidth if needed)
Meh. I don't think they ever hid the fact that the device is basically a ChatGPT wrapper. As long as it can achieve what it advertises, who cares how the backend looks? At least it has the decency to charge a reasonably price ($200, rather than $700 + subscription like the Ai Pin).