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Markov Chain Monte Carlo and the Eurovision Song Contest

118 pointsby roulialmost 13 years ago

10 comments

Gringalmost 13 years ago
Interesting part: "In 2009, it was reported that the 43 Azerbaijanis who texted in votes for Armenia in that year’s contest were summoned to the National Security Ministry to explain their actions".<p>I'm surprised that this country was allowed to stay in the EBU after such a behavior. Really shocking.<p>Lebanon was more or less thrown out of the competition for not playing by the rules (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon_in_the_Eurovision_Song...</a>), so I'm surprised the EBU did not do the same here.
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toemetochalmost 13 years ago
<i>For the 2012 contest, I assume that all friendship values remain the same as in previous years.</i><p>Being in Europe, I'd say that the love for several countries has been in constant review over the past year. Just how and by how much will be clear after we do the exercise again, after Eurosong 2012.<p>P.S. that title ("I've got Eurosong fever, Ted") is from a TV series called "Father Ted". I recommend.
sp332almost 13 years ago
Gotta love statistician logic! <i>The increase in certainty is probably due to additional information gleaned from actually listening to the song.</i>
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_b8r0almost 13 years ago
Living in a multinational household Eurovision is always a fun evening of cheesy euro-pop and European geopolitics. I've always preferred Terry Wogan's humourous coverage of the event, which he's attributed to getting progressively more drunk as the night goes on[1]. I imagine this year that no matter how good the song, Greece will be getting <i>nil point</i> from Germany and vice versa. Of course, Cyprus and Greece get nil point in our household, thanks to the Turkish element. Likewise, the French get nil point from the English side. I imagine for Americans it must all be rather bemusing and strange.<p>The post misses a substantial point about the Czech song Aven Romale[2], that many eastern european countries that would normally bloc vote would be against voting for a Gypsy song based on cultural reasons. I do like the point about the Azeris and Nagorno Karabakh though.<p>[1] - <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/may/15/eurovision-song-contest-graham-norton-terry-wogan" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/may/15/eurovision-song-...</a><p>[2] - <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3CgUmzl4sk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3CgUmzl4sk</a>
Edootjuhalmost 13 years ago
Very interesting, and not too hard to follow with little knowledge of statistics. I might even start taking an interest in the contest, despite the Netherlands coming up with terrible songs to enter every year.
sparknlaunch12almost 13 years ago
Does anyone know what twitter (data) is predicting about the final? Twitter has done quite will in picking recent elections, sporting events etc<p>The recent crisis in Europe should make the voting interesting.
hu_mealmost 13 years ago
slight sidestep but it would be interesting to see how the friendship factors have changed over the years. Could be fun to map on a news timeline to see how it evolves with the geopolitical events.
fuzzythinkeralmost 13 years ago
There's also a Million Song Dataset Challenge going on on Kaggle now: <a href="http://www.kaggle.com/c/msdchallenge" rel="nofollow">http://www.kaggle.com/c/msdchallenge</a>
ebiesteralmost 13 years ago
The Israel numbers seem off - they have a large issue getting votes right now, as evidenced by this semifinal when they (subjectively) had one of the top three songs but didn't make it to the finals.<p>There may be a big change in public opinion, but I don't remember Israel being popular in Europe for at least the last few years...<p>(From one of the very few Americans to actually know about Eurovision, much less watch it.)
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Anon84almost 13 years ago
In a similar note... ( American Idol prediction based on social media ) <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4015553" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4015553</a>