Good to see a $2T market cap company doesn't have enough revenue to retrain and reassign these employees. I'd hate to think what the shareholders would have to endure had they not done layoffs.
Any insider knowledge about how this will affect flutter?<p>Like will the 3+year old bug request to work with firefox be more likely now?<p>Or is this just entirely bad and I should not consider new project using flutter?
The Reddit thread is of a link to a Tweet...<p>> <a href="https://twitter.com/leighajarett/status/1783848728878522620?t=gx4pLcWymgM0sFGFMqMJfA" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/leighajarett/status/1783848728878522620?...</a><p>With no solid information other than a to say "Some amazing #Flutter folks were impacted by the latest round of layoffs.".<p>So that could be 3, 30 or 300 people. Who knows!<p>Not defending Google, but to worry that Flutter is dead in the water is premature.<p>But having said that... it's Google! Once bitten, and all that!
People have to stop building on Google software/apis. You’re just doing it to yourself at this point if you have any other alternative (obviously Android isn’t included in this).
Not surprised. Flutter similar to many Google iniatives have no to minimal revenue tie in. This applies as well to grpc, bazel, beam, dart, fuschia, golang, gerrit.<p>Personally I would not use any open source project that has less than 40% of the active contributions from non Google parties.
It doesn’t seem to me that Flutter was singled-out. Google is going through a phase of company-wide cuts (for example, a lot of people in their Python team have just been made redundant, as well). It also looks like there is a substantial amount of development (still) taking place in and around Flutter… think Impeller and WASM-support (to name but a few). On the whole, Flutter’s ecosystem seems to be, at least, reasonably healthy. All of this does not mean that Google won’t kill Flutter at some point. I just don’t think it will be now.
Link should be the referenced/deep linked comment: <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/FlutterDev/comments/1cduhra/more_layoffs_for_the_flutter_team/l1j9eoo/" rel="nofollow">https://www.reddit.com/r/FlutterDev/comments/1cduhra/more_la...</a>
From the link it doesn't sound like Flutter was singled out specifically, but more of a cut & slash across several teams.<p>Doesn't make it any better though.
Serendipitous that just a few days back, I received an email stating that my unused Google Playstore Developer account was going to be shut down. I had only made and taken off one app some years back, and that was built with Flutter, the only mobile app framework that I know.<p>Thankfully I don't make a career out of Flutter, unlike some really talented exceptional folks like Remi Rousselet and Marcin Szalek. Imo, Flutter was such an awesome refresh in mobile, but lost their way when they messed around with Web dev, which was entrenched React territory, with a very shoddy experience.<p>After this announcement, I'll be 100% going with React for my side projects.
This is a shame that they are losing their jobs. But I can not be surprised at all. Flutter (and Dart) really just never seemed to have a reason to exist, and have not caught any traction.
Repeated layoffs: how to tell your other employees that you hate them and want them to leave also.<p>These damn investors and MBB consultants put a bug in managements' ear that costs must be cut everywhere while mindlessly sabotaging core profit centers and essential infrastructure in myriad indirect ways.
No one is asking what I think is an obvious question...<p>How much of this is driven by AI? Not for investing employees into, but Rather because the are seeing fewer devs being able to do more with the help of AI.<p>I'm thinking that's part of it.
All sorts of teams got affected by layoffs but it means nothing about Google's continued investments in those areas. You don't get articles every time the flutter team grows by a few engineers...
Related discussion on HN [0] with 1000+ comments when Hixie was let go from google.<p>[0] <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38381573">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38381573</a>
reinventing native UI, good riddance<p>I remember when it started, trolls were telling me how my React Native stack is bad and how active flutter's github is, how it was trending with stars. I'm like bro, having way more issues than stars isn't something to be proud of. LOL
They better not f*ck over dart/flutter!<p>I chose them to learn over all the various web frameworks for app development. I like dart. I was worried about Google pulling the plug, but took the risk based on dart/flutter being used internally.<p>Google: don't make the time I've invested a waste please.
Tbh, there's no strong evidence supporting the claim ("killing flutter"). Also, google kind of has it's "layoff season". So, it usually affects almost all the teams at their headquarters.<p>But, that doesn't mean killing Flutter. Flutter is actually backed by other companies as well. Not to mention Canonical the biggest one. Also, many Chinese companies uses it as well (biggest are Alibaba, Tencent etc). Google uses Flutter in big projects like The Google Earth, Play Console, GCP console, Ads for mobile etc.<p>Also, Open Source contributors exists. Even if Google abandons Flutter, it'll be around for long time. Because it solves the cross-platform problem like no other framework ever could. At least, not with this level Developer Experience and platform integration.<p>I might sound biased because I'm a Flutter dev. But, I'd say to trust the community. Same reason QT is still around and better than ever.<p>Also, in a few years AI will replace us so what even matters /s