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Boeing faces new US investigation into 'missed' 787 inspections

255 pointsby mindracerabout 1 year ago

16 comments

jl6about 1 year ago
Is this the kind of problem that is being uncovered because of the extra scrutiny that Boeing is currently under? To put it another way, is this the kind of problem that is endemic across industry and we’re only finding out now because we are taking the time to look?<p>One can only imagine the horrors lurking in industries lucky enough not to have had any famous failures recently.
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langsoul-comabout 1 year ago
Feels like Boeing is trying to shift the blame on the individual instead of their incentive and corporate culture about missed inspections.<p>Its not the company, but rather x individual that falsified their safety report. Don&#x27;t worry, we&#x27;ll fire them and everyone can forget about this. Is the feeling I&#x27;m getting.
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proeeabout 1 year ago
How many organizations of similar size bamboozle regulators?<p>When a fast food restaurant is responsible for an ecoli outbreak, regulars are quick to point out broken processes in the organization that need fixed.<p>It&#x27;s a bit of reactionary theater, where both sides are playing a game to show that they are not the source of the problem. If you are the regulator, there is plenty of motivation to show the world you are doing your job by pointing to missteps in a process. If you are the offender, there is plenty of motivation to concede to &quot;some&quot; failures in process, cut your losses, and show that you are improving.<p>Everyone, if you could just submit your TPS reports on time that would be great.
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stephc_int13about 1 year ago
I sincerely hope this whole Boeing debacle will be used as wake-up call for other large corporations, or the general public.<p>Most of them are not as safety-critical, but some of them are, thinking about Big Pharma and Chemical giants...
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yarealabout 1 year ago
I believe it&#x27;s time to nationalize Boeing, remove their leadership and replace them with engineers.<p>The people who run the company should be the people who know how to build planes. It&#x27;s in our economic and industrial and defense interest to have a well run, high quality aerospace manufacturer.
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karaterobotabout 1 year ago
&gt; Stocker said the company would “celebrate” the employee who spoke up.<p>My advice to this employee: run.
busterabout 1 year ago
Interesting read regarding &quot;missed inspections&quot;: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pluralistic.net&#x2F;2024&#x2F;05&#x2F;01&#x2F;boeing-boeing&#x2F;#mrsa" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pluralistic.net&#x2F;2024&#x2F;05&#x2F;01&#x2F;boeing-boeing&#x2F;#mrsa</a>
jmyeetabout 1 year ago
It&#x27;s a well known phenomenon that over time profits tend to fall [1]. Investors demand growth however so the consequence is obvious: all companies will tend to try and increase prices and&#x2F;or cut costs to maintain profits.<p>Raising prices tends to lower demand. It might be the case that a lower volume at higher margin leads to a higher gross profit but often it doesn&#x27;t. So raising prices tends to be limited to where demand is ineleastic or you have or can construct a monopoly or enclosure of some kind.<p>So most companies have to resort o cutting costs. This means suppressing wages and doing what Boeing has done in spades: using subcontracting to lower costs. Being is now in the FAFO phase of cost-cutting. Since around the time of the McDonnell-Douglas merger, the engineers lost and the accountants won.<p>Once again, this Steve Jobs quote [2] is apropos.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Tendency_of_the_rate_of_profit_to_fall" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Tendency_of_the_rate_of_profit...</a><p>[2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=tGKsbt5wii0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=tGKsbt5wii0</a>
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ItsBobabout 1 year ago
At what point do we say &quot;This company is rotten to the core and needs shut down&quot;? This article alleges that they may be falsifying safety stuff!<p>It&#x27;s not like they&#x27;re making lollipops ffs... they&#x27;re transporting millions of people per day in things that cannot afford to have issues... ever!<p>Sure, I understand that the media has them under a spotlight right now but even so!<p>On another note this quote got me laughing: &quot;Stocker said the company would “celebrate” the employee who spoke up.&quot;<p>&quot;Yeah, Mike, just step out the back while Tony and Big Joe celebrate you in the alleyway here&quot;! :)
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sylwareabout 1 year ago
All this Boeing thing is now really seriously dangerous, up to life threatening.<p>Something seems REALLY wrong. Maybe time to ramp up the type of &quot;services&quot; to understand what is going up there...
VyseofArcadiaabout 1 year ago
I sure hope the investigation finds some fault with management for creating an environment where falsifying records was considered an option.
interdriftabout 1 year ago
Always remember that one guy testifying that he saw employees jumping with their feet on airplane parts to insert them in somewhere. LOL.
belterabout 1 year ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=40278391">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=40278391</a>
swasheckabout 1 year ago
really excited to be flying one these in 36 hours
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croesabout 1 year ago
If companies are people in the US after how many crimes does a company get a life sentence or death penalty?
ziofillabout 1 year ago
For a split second I thought how ironic there were 787 missed inspections.