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Apple Joins the SeL4 Foundation

94 pointsby fork-bomberabout 1 year ago

6 comments

542458about 1 year ago
For context, the Apple Secure Enclave chips run an NICTA L4-based microkernel, albeit not SeL4 specifically as far as I know (given the Secure Enclave launched in 2006 and NICTA released SeL4 in 2014). I wonder if this indicates plans to adopt SeL4?<p>SeL4 is extremely cool technology. It has been formally proven to be bug-free against its specification, which massively simplifies the development of high-security high-reliability systems. I feel like there’s a lot more development to be seen in this space.
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trolliedabout 1 year ago
If you&#x27;re interested, the microkernel is open source: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;seL4&#x2F;seL4">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;seL4&#x2F;seL4</a>
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ytchabout 1 year ago
A little bit unrelated, but reading through their member list:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sel4.systems&#x2F;Foundation&#x2F;Membership&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sel4.systems&#x2F;Foundation&#x2F;Membership&#x2F;</a><p>reminds me that Jobs explains why their company called &quot;Apple Computer&quot; is: &quot;I worked at Atari, and it got us ahead of Atari in the phone book.&quot;[1].<p>Apple is the first one of all sel4 general member too.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;apple-archive-name-apple-2011-12" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;apple-archive-name-apple-201...</a>
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mdhbabout 1 year ago
Hopefully they won’t be the absolute waste of time as a company that they have been on the web standards working groups. Hard to trust them at this point in any collaborative sense.
fidotronabout 1 year ago
Interesting if unsurprising this is shortly after the AArch64 verification was completed.<p>And credit where it’s due, I know we love dumping on the national security apparatus, but the UK NCSC actually funded that work, which is a clear net win.
darksaintsabout 1 year ago
Any chance this could become the kernel for Darwin?
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