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The Software Behind Silicon

72 pointsby hasheddanabout 1 year ago

4 comments

aworksabout 1 year ago
I worked at Synopsys for 11 years until I retired. Very diverse types of software engineers. I was in the hardware IP group (versus say the EDA or security businesses). My team had embedded software engineers, Linux kernel hackers, compiler developers, machine learning&#x2F;AI tool developers and Java GUI programmer, all with some knowledge of underlying processor hardware. T<p>The profile of those engineers was different from the EDA software developers. And the Coverity&#x2F;security teams were rather different from all of the above.<p>I particularly enjoyed my senior architect helping our hardware IP developers improve their RTL develpment via teaching good sofware engineering techniques and by building a Javascript-based tool for helping to automate writing of Verilog before it was fed into the Synopsys Design Compiler.
gravescaleabout 1 year ago
The last specific silicon design tool I used was Electric, nearly 2 decades ago. It was a usability Superfund site, but I&#x27;ve also had to deal with things like Cadence since and my general impression of these &quot;super-pro&quot; tools in specific spaces (ok, well Electric isnt that) is that usability and stability is completely dreadful. Like, I&#x27;d probably Maybe they&#x27;re powerful when you know exactly how to use them, and their quirks are burned into seasoned engineers&#x27; muscle memory, but if you&#x27;re not living and breathing them with a greybeard to explain their vicissitudes, you&#x27;re going to have a frustrating experience.<p>Once wonders what the software that drives the floor in places like TSMC (and if anything is worse than design tools, it&#x27;s internal industrial control software) is like and how well it can be transplanted to a new workforce.
resource_wasteabout 1 year ago
These are one of those things that make you wonder &#x27;why does anyone (real) Engineer when you can be a Programmer?&#x27;<p>Its more economical to automate the engineering work with software&#x2F;programming.<p>(Or if its not more economical, you wouldn&#x27;t automate it)<p>Its not like there is a lack of engineering work to automate. Until we reach some sort of assembly-line-steady-state like we have today, I don&#x27;t really know why someone would be a (real) engineer when you can make more money as a programmer. Real engineering is significantly harder physically, mentally, timing-wise, etc... I don&#x27;t see any advantage. I will never be going back. I just automate now.
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RicoElectricoabout 1 year ago
Those who have been at Synopsys for a while know that it kinda lost its soul when the old guard retired (Chi-foon, Trac, Jan, Aart). Those were much down-to-earth than current C-suite who spews corporate bullshit, does weird layoffs and in general is more cozy with wall street than its own workforce, drinking the kool-aid of unsustainably growing valuation.