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Show HN: CarCheck – Car Buying Checklist App

164 pointsby thorlonabout 1 year ago
Hey HN!<p>A few years ago my brother in-law was looking to purchase his first car. He was struggling to know what to look for when going to car dealerships and felt quite overwhelmed with the financial and practical decisions required. Not that I have any particular expertise with cars or the engineering involved, but through my own experiences purchasing cars and owning them I gave him some advice and &quot;tips&quot;. As anyone would.<p>Things only morphed from there, I spent the next couple of years in my spare time learning to code, researching, and developing CarCheck. It&#x27;s been a journey! Hindsight is 20&#x2F;20 and some things I would have done differently, but that&#x27;s part of the fun. I am proud to be sharing my (imperfect) first app with the world and excited to learn from you all for my next project :)<p>I would love to hear your feedback!

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londons_exploreabout 1 year ago
I kinda wish this was a webpage not an app, and that it would require no sign in.<p>Sure, have a sign in feature if you want to save your checklist for later, but the vast majority of people will use this for just a few minutes&#x2F;hours and the state can be stored in a cookie.
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sneakabout 1 year ago
This app phones home with a bunch of unique identifiers and the app privacy label says those are used to track you across other apps and services as well.<p>Hard pass on all apps of this type.<p>Seems to me this app would be more useful as a short webpage, or perhaps single pdf.
starbird300012 months ago
Congrats on the app!<p>If you want an example of an &#x27;odd&#x27; case for your app, one thing I would never expect, is that my car dealer apparently recently titled my car in VA while I live in MD, although I bought the car six years ago (I discovered this when I tried renewing my MD tags and was told my car had been titled out of state). In effect, they have just stolen my car through sheer incompetence even though it&#x27;s paid off and all the documentation show I owe it. Maryland MVA say there&#x27;s nothing I can do until I get the dealer to sort it out. Needless to say trying to get through to anyone in their tags and title office, or getting a response from their manager has been difficult because I&#x27;m not buying a new car. So I think the app needs to call out bad dealers and those whose back office is incompetent (I&#x27;m never buying a car in Virginia again after this, no matter how cheap it is).
taoufix12 months ago
ChrisFix&#x27;s handy guide:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;playlist?list=PLvKbarVtwhUv6bjLhJSyaEOxaYy03j7QS" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;playlist?list=PLvKbarVtwhUv6bjLhJSya...</a><p>And the pdf checklist:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.chris-fix.com&#x2F;upload&#x2F;How%20to%20Inspect%20a%20Used%20Car%20Checklist%20%20FULL.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.chris-fix.com&#x2F;upload&#x2F;How%20to%20Inspect%20a%20Us...</a>
jiehongabout 1 year ago
First of all, congrats on the launch and idea!<p>The UI of the app reminds me a bit of CheckYourLists [0], and I could imagine being able to import lists in the app from a static web server could work nicely.<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;checkyourlist.app&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;checkyourlist.app&#x2F;</a>
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gnicholasabout 1 year ago
For the roadmap, maybe make it a separate page where people can vote on what feature enhancements they want. That way you don’t broadcast that the app isn’t fully built, and you gather feedback regarding which features are most popular.
Gerloabout 1 year ago
I subscribed to the mailing list and look forward to the unified app! I was going to put together a personal checklist for a house and car, but I never got around to it. So thanks for saving me the time!<p>I haven&#x27;t looked at the app too closely yet, but is it possible to add my own custom criteria, too?
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rafamvcabout 1 year ago
I love the idea, nice website.<p>I actually would love to hear more about the journey you briefly touched on the description. Like how you learned to code, what tech stack you choose, what was hard, what resources helped you, etc And what you would do the same and different if you had to do it again.
aspyctabout 1 year ago
Nice! Might need to buy a car soon, so that&#x27;s handy!<p>A few comments:<p>- maybe add somes weights to the questions? For example it&#x27;s more important that the rear view mirrors are properly attached than having no stain on the upholstery.<p>- some questions deserve more details. &quot;After revving the vehicle in neutral...&quot;, am I supposed to rev it for long?<p>Other than that... Thanks! Looks pretty good :) Nitpick on the price: I would be ready to pay to remove ads, but not for the current price.
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mgabout 1 year ago
I like this approach you do with UsefulChecklists - building very generic software projects and then applying them to different topics. So my feature request is a way to follow your journey with this project. An RSS, ActivityPub, Nostr, Bluesky or Twitter feed.
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rrr_oh_manabout 1 year ago
That’s really neat!<p>How do you tackle the issue that it’s a high intensity, but low frequency problem?
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keepamovinabout 1 year ago
This does look cool. I think it&#x27;s valid to have an app for a normally infrequent activity that is high cost and hard to undo. Thanks for making!<p>Tangentially, does anyone have advice on a good medium capacity, medium price utility vehicle? I&#x27;m thinking F150, because it seems like the Levi&#x27;s of trucks (common, reliable, not particularly fancy, old brand, big), but I don&#x27;t know much.
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Onavoabout 1 year ago
Very cool, if you own a tesla, there&#x27;s also<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;teslaprep.glideapp.io" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;teslaprep.glideapp.io</a>
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r00fusabout 1 year ago
I&#x27;m actually about to buy a car (having thoroughly examined various models by renting on Turo) so this is very timely!<p>For EVs, it seems the largest question is with the EV battery. Is there any way that anyone knows how to determine the health of the EV battery consistently across make&#x2F;models?
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lnsruabout 1 year ago
I didn’t check the proposition. But is there a problem for this solution? Every car brand has an online community for every model. Every community has a forum and checklist with all the possible problems. Also most people know some car guy to ask the basics.
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mplewisabout 1 year ago
Can you show me some sample pre-buy questions before I install the app?
hnlmorgabout 1 year ago
Personally I’d remove the roadmap from your landing page. The project is either ready for consumption or it isn’t.<p>Either way, you can still have a mail sign up with a massage like “more features are on our way, sign up to keep up to date” (or similar).<p>By all means have a roadmap elsewhere, but the landing my page is for selling your project rather then telling people what your project currently cannot do.
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LeifCarrotsonabout 1 year ago
I&#x27;d prefer to buy this once, not as a subscription. A subscription for something I&#x27;m going to complete in a month and then have to remember to unsubscribe from feels scummy.<p>It feels a little incomplete.<p>There are two or three competing use cases that are currently commingled - choosing between models, choosing between offers, or choosing whether a particular unit you&#x27;ve gone to see is up-to-snuff.<p>There&#x27;s a certain set of data I need when want to decide whether I want a Highlander, a RAV4, a Prius, or a Crosstrek. All of this data is available to you as the app developer, but currently manually entered. I&#x27;m considering these options from my desk, and would prefer to do it on a web page, not on a phone.<p>There&#x27;s a completely different set of parameters when weighing the 2020 RAV4 with 60k miles at Joe&#x27;s Auto in Hudsonville versus the 2018 Crosstrek with 80k sold by private party in Grandville. For this decision, I&#x27;d love if you could scrape a posting that I copied the URL for from Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, Auto trader, Carvana, or a dealer listing! For this decision, I particularly like a bubble chart: Price on the Y axis, mileage on the X axis, bubble diameter by year, and colors for different models or different vehicle types. You want the biggest one in the bottom left, and these can be all over, especially with older private party sales. And there&#x27;s more opportunity for you to offer value with your much greater data set, comparing these bubbles to Edmunds&#x2F;KBB&#x2F;recent sales values.<p>This is also trying to be a third thing, an app I bring along with me when I&#x27;ve found a particular unit that I want to test drive.<p>There&#x27;s definitely an opportunity to follow along and help at each of these three steps in the process, but it doesn&#x27;t feel like a single workflow will work best for all three.
julienreszkaabout 1 year ago
I wish there was a light theme. Dark theme is so hard to read
sokoloffabout 1 year ago
Downloaded the app and tried it out, having just picked up a used car last week.<p>As a 5&#x2F;7 “car guy” I think of car buying in two phases: winnow the range of all possible cars into a few models (possibly one) and a few year ranges per model (also possibly one), then shop for cars in that set.<p>This app is exclusively useful in the second of those steps, though creating a decision matrix and scoring could be done similarly for the first step.<p>In terms of utility in the second step, I have weights in mind for different questions (“no significant bodywork” has vastly higher rating than “no stains on floor mats”), and many are subjective (no used car is completely free of wear marks, but different used cars present very differently and I probably want to record a 1-5 or similar rating for some categories).<p>Scraping AutoTempest (or Edmunds) and other sites to show me the function of asking prices vs miles and years would be worth something. I started creating that for my own shopping to try to augment my gut feel.<p>Certified pre-owned is a high-value checkmark for individual cars, typically being worth a few thousand dollars.<p>Where the car is is another large factor in terms of being able to consider it, from a time and money standpoint. I was shopping nationwide for two models, each with one series (a range of years where models were similarly designed&#x2F;optioned), and keeping track of which cars I’d already ruled out was a drag. (For this, what I really want is a browser plug-in to change the CSS to grey out cars that I’ve already blocked [previous crash damage, missing option that I want, etc.].)<p>With multiple cars and the scraped pricing curves, you could do some visualizations (price on Y, miles on X as an example) of the cars vs the curves. (Or cars only, vs curves as premium feature.)<p>Absent data to show otherwise, I’d open the free version to at least 4 cars (probably 5) and provide a soft-delete (“I’m not ever buying <i>this</i> car.”) where those cars don’t count against the 5, in order to get more data on how people use the app, how they sort&#x2F;filter, and to get more users. (If I’m only comparing two cars, I can keep that in my head.)<p>Overall, as-is I couldn’t&#x2F;wouldn’t use it, mostly because of the fixed questions and lack of weights as above.<p>Other ideas: incorporate OBD2 scanning (perhaps with a rev share or affiliate marketing angle for the device). People will pay $25 for a device and $4.99 for your app long before they’ll pay $4.99 for your app alone.<p>Or to find hidden bodywork, affiliate links to paint thickness meter could bring in revenue.<p>Provide an “import details” button in pro version where you type in a VIN and scrape the web or find other sources for options, color, links, etc.<p>Provide a barcode scanner to scan the VIN sticker on the door. This could be an easy pro upgrade upsell.<p>I just went through this and spent 10 months of half-effort buying our car and there were definitely parts that could have been improved. Sites like AutoTempest (my primary) and cargurus* were helpful but still incomplete.<p>When I got to the point of traveling to inspect a car, I was much more in the mindset of “buy or pass” at that moment (the 37% [1&#x2F;e] dating approach to finding the optimal mate via serial dating) than I was of score a checklist and compare overall. This app could pivot towards that by helping people declare how many cars they’re willing to go see, then frame each car in relation to this optimal stopping math problem.<p>Good luck!<p>* Small disclaimer: I know the cargurus founder and several people working in tech there. I think I’m unbiased in saying I used it consistently (and second to AutoTempest), but it’s impossible to tell with perfect certainty.
p0w3n3dabout 1 year ago
one check missing: check if it is a new car. if it is new, you won&#x27;t be able to fix it in your local garage (or will require to login to manufacturer&#x27;s cloud to setup new brake pads etc).
sagasu007about 1 year ago
It would be even better if there was a pure web version
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kingkongjaffaabout 1 year ago
If im going to use something like this it needs to be hooked into hard to get data such as reliability statistics, parts availability, servicing costs in my area, part wear intervals and how soon a car will reach them (timing belt needs changing at 90,000 miles and your used car is at 70,000 miles, so get ready to spend £xxx amount relatively soon) for specific models and years.
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amneabout 1 year ago
I&#x27;m wondering who is this for? Buying cars frequently is very niche and those people just remmeber what to look for. That&#x27;s called experience. And then there&#x27;s people buying every couple of years.<p>I think an app should be something that either helps you continuously (health tracking apps, home automation, etc.) but you don&#x27;t access that much and apps that you access a lot (media, chat, calendar, a game or two). This is neither.
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