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Fifteen Fundamental Properties (2022)

64 pointsby camillovisiniabout 1 year ago

5 comments

tptacekabout 1 year ago
This is derived from Christopher Alexander, who people on HN might be more aware of as the (distant) intellectual progenitor of the pattern language movement (of which the &quot;Gang of Four&quot; Design Patterns are the most familiar incarnation) --- but he himself is an architect; I assume &quot;A Pattern Language&quot; isn&#x27;t his most important book in his own field, but it&#x27;s a lot of fun to flip through, and I&#x27;m glad I have it.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Christopher_Alexander" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Christopher_Alexander</a>
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rkallosabout 1 year ago
These properties are explained in great detail in volume 1 of Christopher Alexander&#x27;s The Nature of Order.<p>Reading about these with accompanying images of spaces or objects demonstrating the presence or absence of these properties is what made it stick for me.
diggingabout 1 year ago
Maybe I&#x27;m just too brutish to understand, but this comes across as absurd to me. Willing to be corrected.<p>Boundaries as a fundamental property makes sense. Literally all things have boundaries (or, if you prefer, no things have boundaries and we can design the <i>perception</i> of boundaries).<p><i>Thick boundaries</i> is <i>an approach</i> to utilizing the property of boundaries. Thin boundaries exist; they&#x27;re acknowledged (as &quot;ineffective&quot;) in the selfsame paragraph. So Thick Boundaries is not a fundamental property. (Separately, I disagree that <i>thin</i> boundaries are categorically ineffective, unless we&#x27;re defining thinness in a tautological way - ie. &quot;a boundary so thin that a human can&#x27;t ordinarily perceive it&quot;. But I&#x27;m no legendary designer.)<p>Engineers get a lot of flack for not having the skills to explain their work in non-technical ways, but I think designers are the worst about it. Concepts will be so abstracted as to be inscrutable, such that <i>a simple statement of a fundamental property</i> comes across as an <i>obviously wrong and foolish statement</i> to an outsider. This abstraction is not a bad thing in and of itself, but you&#x27;d think designers of all professions would be better about inclusive presentation - that is, about making their work understood.<p>(The introductory paragraph of TFA is actually an unusually clear and useful framing to the content - often such articles don&#x27;t even both with a lay introduction; but the content, as I stated above, is close to nonsense to me.)
abeppuabout 1 year ago
&gt; Objects and buildings feature a hierarchy of centers – distinctive features which attract the spectator&#x27;s eye.<p>I think it&#x27;s weird to consider the people interacting with buildings as &quot;spectators&quot;. Presumably a building serves purposes other than being seen. Though these were posed by an architect, &quot;residents&quot;, &quot;occupants&quot;, &quot;users&quot; etc are never mentioned -- only &quot;spectators&quot;.
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xutopiaabout 1 year ago
This feels like astrology of design. It is just me?
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