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The Great Flattening

139 pointsby sturzaabout 1 year ago

18 comments

_the_special_about 1 year ago
&quot; will AI be a bicycle that we control, or an unstoppable train to destinations unknown? To put it in the same terms as the ad, will human will and initiative be flattened, or expanded?&quot;<p>Interesting line of thinking here. I&#x27;ve never considered this but an observation from my usage of chat AIs at least is an increased willingness to defer my thought-organising process to the AI by just jotting down some random ideas and asking it to make it coherent. I guess on a personal level I&#x27;m flattening my own mind?
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antfieabout 1 year ago
The URL contains a JWT token which is a CWE-598 security weakness of the application. Reference: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;owasp.org&#x2F;www-community&#x2F;vulnerabilities&#x2F;Information_exposure_through_query_strings_in_url" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;owasp.org&#x2F;www-community&#x2F;vulnerabilities&#x2F;Information_...</a>.
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KingOfCodersabout 1 year ago
&quot;The Internet, birthed as it was in the idealism of California tech&quot;<p>The moment CERN is transmogrified to California. One could argue the internet pre-WWW existed (I joined the internet myself on IRC and NEWS) but then, who today was on the internet pre-WWW?
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RcouF1uZ4gsCabout 1 year ago
&gt; specifically, will AI be a bicycle that we control, or an unstoppable train to destinations unknown?<p>I am more worried about AI becoming a tank - an instrument only the approved agents of the state are allowed to possess and which is used to flatten dissent.<p>Look at the push for regulations in the name of “safety”. It is more about control than safety.
fl0kiabout 1 year ago
I&#x27;m not sure I see the point. It&#x27;s not hard to see that humans almost everywhere and in almost every point in history organized (voluntarily or otherwise) into those with more agency and leverage and those with less.<p>Most people are content to find a comfort zone and continue in that for decades at a time as long as conditions are bearable. Some people find themselves both able and willing to make tough decisions that affect many other people. This could be through compassionate leadership, dispassionate but mutual agreement, or even violent oppression, and I think the people involved care more about that context than whether certain human-computer interfaces are involved.
fl0kiabout 1 year ago
The tendency to compare Meta and Apple offerings is always at least a little unfair. Given that this type of product and ecosystem is going to exist now, Apple did everything they reasonably could to avoid the problem of people being isolated behind their glasses, even to the point of introducing more weaknesses in a product because they felt it was worth pointing this trend in a certain direction.<p>The simulated face on the outside is a perfect example. By all accounts, it doesn&#x27;t work well. They knew it didn&#x27;t work well, and surely somebody had to say that the product was worse off including it. But clearly the decision was that they&#x27;d rather make a product that isolated people less than making a product that was more polished.<p>There were other VR &amp; AR headsets for many years before Vision Pro; how come there weren&#x27;t viral videos of people wearing them going about their day in city streets? Of the two, which is more like WALL-E with people reclined in total immersion and which is at least trying to head in the direction of AR being a seamless part of every day life?<p>Of course it also has an immersive mode, because you can&#x27;t seriously make a product like this without accounting for that use case. It just shouldn&#x27;t be the only way the product can ever be used.<p>Being usable without any controllers is also a significant way that it keeps you in touch with your surroundings. You&#x27;re not giving up normal interactions in exchange for VR ones; you&#x27;re gaining AR interactions in addition to all of your normal physical interactions. I think most people don&#x27;t appreciate just what a radical difference this can be.<p>I think part of why the Vision Pro launched when it did with the strategy and philosophy it did is specifically so that the market doesn&#x27;t default to how Meta does things. Even if the Vision Pro doesn&#x27;t sweep the world like the iPhone did, the future will be better if we have examples of how to balance the potential of VR with the potential of AR.<p>Disclaimer: I don&#x27;t actually have a Vision Pro and a lot would have to change before I&#x27;d consider buying it. I&#x27;m just explaining why I think they deserve credit for good intentions, and why, given the market is going to contain products like this now, I&#x27;m glad the Vision Pro is one of them.
Waterluvianabout 1 year ago
I think the ad was uncharacteristically tasteless but I still don’t understand the leap from “well that isn’t convincing me to buy their product” to “I’m personally offended and my day is ruined. Someone must apologize to me.”<p>Is this just the “I need validation by other people liking what I like” thing we see a lot in gaming, sports, etc. fandoms?<p>What I’m also curious about, given how shocking it is for Apple to totally miss the mark, is if this was calculated.
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huygens6363about 1 year ago
I found The Ad to evoke feelings of crushing power and being demolished by an actual moloch.<p>I don’t care for the instruments, but the sheer physicality of it, the dominating, destructive awesome power does linger.<p>It captures Apple and all big tech beautifully: pure, raw, admittedly impressive power that will swallow everything in its path. I found it one of the more (unintentionally) honest ads in years.<p>Not sure if society needs such presences, but that’s another discussion.
yourapostasyabout 1 year ago
A flattening I’m watching with interest is the gradually increasing digital integration of the physical world. I’m hopeful that it opens the door to at least tap the brakes on the enshittification of our physical artifacts.<p>For example, there are landfill dumps-ful of mass produced electrical devices like shavers, toothbrushes, AirPods and so on tossed out for want of just a replacement battery made too difficult to replace by those mass consumers. But I’m seeing green shoots of hope in people leveraging the flattening by sharing how-to hacks to repair these, and in rare but hopefully increasing number of cases, improve them for longer service lives.<p>With gains in pushing CNC mills, wire EDM and more fabrication to small scales, big chunks of which are enabled by this flattening, I’m cautiously optimistic we will be able to distribute persisted, good engineering.
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nunezabout 1 year ago
This article made me think of something. Does anyone else find themselves trying to revert back to doing certain activities the &quot;pre-smartphone&quot; way?<p>Examples:<p>- Radio stations and records instead of streaming<p>- Longform, newspaper-like text (this site) vs. all video all the time<p>- Finding ways of reducing phone usage, ideally to zero?
from-niblyabout 1 year ago
At this point im convinced Apple is commissioning these prices to get people to watch their ad.
LtVodkaabout 1 year ago
So.. what&#x27;s the problem again?
baal80spamabout 1 year ago
It definitely feels that people just NEED to be angry about SOMETHING these days...
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martinclaytonabout 1 year ago
I&#x27;d forgotten about the Aggregation Theory piece.<p>&quot;By extension, this means that the most important factor determining success is the user experience: the best distributors&#x2F;aggregators&#x2F;market-makers win by providing the best experience, which earns them the most consumers&#x2F;users, which attracts the most suppliers, which enhances the user experience in a virtuous cycle.&quot;<p>Sadly, the reality of the virtuous circle though is: enshittification.<p>&quot;...from music to video to books to art; the extent to which being “special” meant being scarce is the extent to which the existence of “special” meant a constriction of opportunity&quot;<p>I don&#x27;t get this. Rarity or inaccessibility has been used as marketing tool, sure. But great music and books were not scarce for a long time pre-internet. Feels like a &quot;never mind the quality, feel the width&quot; view of culture.<p>&quot;LLMs are breaking down all written text ever into massive models that don’t even bother with pages: they simply give you the answer.&quot;<p>When will people stop saying that? The give <i>an</i> answer, yes, but is it <i>the</i> answer: caveat emptor.
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btbuildemabout 1 year ago
&gt; the ad resonated so deeply is that it captured something deep in the gestalt that actually has very little to do with trumpets or guitars or bottles of paint [..] - everything is an app.<p>I feel like the author -almost- has it here. It&#x27;s not that everything is an app, it&#x27;s that all tasks and activities are performed and accessed via a glowing screen of varying sizes. It really does flatten the experience, literally and figuratively.<p>As an amateur &quot;contractor&quot;, I&#x27;ve got a shed-full of tools; each of these tools serves a rather specific purpose. Most of them are (conceptually) old and complete, and their physical form closely reflects their domain. A brute sledge hammer next to a set of mini screw drivers, a sharp Japanese chisel of folded steel, a relentless bulldog of a sawzall with a multi-purpose blade. You hold a tool and it resonates with the type of work you&#x27;ve done with it in the past.<p>Using these tools, a person feels extended in a physical sense. It&#x27;s true, Jobs&#x27;s little big epiphany that &quot;humans are tool makers&quot; - we&#x27;re very little without the tools we&#x27;ve made. But the tools we made in turn shape us. The old adage &quot;when all you&#x27;ve got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail&quot;. When all you&#x27;ve got is a smooth screen, everything looks like rainbow puke.<p>The great flattening robs us of the universality of tool-making and tool-using, in a big part because we&#x27;ve created these universal tools that serve a myriad purposes in their one form. Sure, the markings on the screen are different every time. But look from away, and all you see is a person hunched over a glowing rectangle for endless hours; replace that object with anything else and the scene becomes grotesque and tragic.<p>At work the other day I joked that an LLM is a &quot;data laundering service&quot; -- and for the most part, that it primarily is. Washing away any licences and attributions, it mostly preserves the coherence of knowledge it&#x27;s trained on. Ask it something and anything, and it will render it for you. Now we&#x27;re in the realm of conceptual flattening, now the universality has begun to interface with our minds directly, it has begun to replace and therefore atrophy and rob us of some of the prime abilities that let us construct tools in the first place.<p>It is a terrifying thought that we are heading into a future where people outsource their reasoning and creativity to tools. We&#x27;re giving up something inherently human, but we&#x27;ve also (and we have been for at least a century) climbed so high onto the shoulders of giants, we&#x27;ve long ago lost sight of the ground. A vision of a world looms, post-collapse, where worshippers line up to consult oracles; the last vestiges of before-the-fall tech, remaining repositories of knowledge we&#x27;ve given up, still functioning, but now pure magic to those who attend them.
andrewstuartabout 1 year ago
Yes what a great observation.<p>The ad is so shocking because it&#x27;s the truth.<p>We all know it.
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lasermike026about 1 year ago
Reject it. Go analog. Enter the world. You&#x27;ll be happier and your life will have meaning.
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EricEabout 1 year ago
&quot;Like today, the industrial revolution included a period of time that saw many lose their jobs and a massive surge in inequality. It also lifted millions of others out of sustenance farming. Then again, it also propagated slavery, particularly in North America.&quot;<p>Slavery existed long before the industrial revolution and still exists to this day. Talk about being grossly ignorant of not just history but of today too.
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