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Discord has been using ML to determine the gender and age of some of its users

126 pointsby davikrabout 1 year ago

21 comments

polishdude20about 1 year ago
At some point they'll just resort to calling the metric "person type" and the gender and age will be baked into it. They'll then use that "person type" metric to determine what you want to see, hear and consume.
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CM30about 1 year ago
So, is there a reason they could be doing this?<p>Like from Discord&#x27;s perspective, what would this actually accomplish business wise?<p>I&#x27;m kinda drawing a blank here.
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spencerchubbabout 1 year ago
I would be more surprised if a social app wasn&#x27;t doing this
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lemonlime0x3C33about 1 year ago
as long as they are accurate I do not mind. I was annoyed that as women who is also an engineer google&#x27;s ad profile always insisted I was a single man. Despite my many skincare&#x2F;make up&#x2F; and women&#x27;s clothing&#x2F;shoe purchases. I guess they weighted reference schematics and data sheet searches more heavily than other things. If you are going to show me targeted ads please make them ads I want to see.
owulveryckabout 1 year ago
I think that in Europe, that will soon be prohibited without declaration and explicit consent.
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0xC0ncordabout 1 year ago
I wonder if Discord may end up using this in some capacity to determine whether someone may be under the age of 13, which is the minimum age you need to be in order to have an account according to their terms of service.
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tacocatacoabout 1 year ago
The beginning of enshitification of discord (while 100% expected) for some reason hits harder then any other service I&#x27;ve used throughout all these years. It has entirely replaced social media for me. It just felt more organic to me then anything else.<p>So... since I&#x27;ve heard about the ads coming to discord, I have looked into alternatives.<p>They do exist, in varying quality, and there are programs for some of them that make a &quot;bridge&quot; from a discord server to your new platform. It&#x27;s possible to have your cake and eat it to.<p>Matrix looks really close, but it needs ALOT of love. I have high hopes for matrix because of the idea of it. Perhaps my lackluster experience was because I didn&#x27;t choose the best client available. I&#x27;m still trying new things here.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;matrix.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;matrix.org&#x2F;</a><p>Revolt is the more complete product as of today.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;revolt.chat&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;revolt.chat&#x2F;</a><p>Spacebar I have yet to try but it&#x27;s on my radar.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;spacebarchat">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;spacebarchat</a><p>I just wanted to see if anyone else had other recommendations for me to try. I really would appreciate help here. Hopefully something open source and self hosted so I can <i>stop migrating</i> and sink some roots in somewhere.<p>Oh crap, is it IRC?
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thinkingemoteabout 1 year ago
Discord last month announced they would be adding advertising to their app.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=39903541">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=39903541</a><p>This would make sense with regards to this. It&#x27;s essential data to be able to sell ads to companies.<p>If you are an open source or community project on the platform you should probably set up a Libre alternative...
Animatsabout 1 year ago
Can you read your own Discord stats, or do you have to be an advertiser to get this info?
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kkfxabout 1 year ago
Well... Might hit hard a large slice of anagraphically adults witch are still mentally children... Some might even trigger scandals being in significant positions in the social pyramid...
ed_mercerabout 1 year ago
This is really smart. You can get around privacy laws and still derive useful data without having to ask the user personal information.
ajsnigrutinabout 1 year ago
If someone asks, i&#x27;m 16&#x2F;f&#x2F;cali!
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whalesaladabout 1 year ago
does anyone know the name of the monospaced font being used in this screenshot
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matrix87about 1 year ago
more surprised that they made it this obvious tbh, somebody is probably getting shafted for not obfuscating this
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ianbutlerabout 1 year ago
Discord is also using Ml to determine the topic of conversation in a voice channel and share it to potential listeners to decide if they want to join the conversation or not.<p>Frankly I find that unacceptable since the expectation is if no one is in the channel but the person you’re talking with you wouldn’t expect randoms to be pseudo listening in.<p>Edit: Not certain why I&#x27;ve been downvoted, I can easily provide proof in the form of screenshots
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littlestymaarabout 1 year ago
And another privacy violation to be prosecuted under GDPR: go NOYB, go!
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kunleyabout 1 year ago
...but why?
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slothtropabout 1 year ago
didyoujustassumemygender.png<p>The data analytics work, that&#x27;s why companies use them.
AzzyHNabout 1 year ago
Since discord doesn&#x27;t serve ads, I assume this is just for data collection that then gets sold? Like an analytics company?
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jasonlotitoabout 1 year ago
The commentary here shows how ignorant people are with things like mandatory reporting and protecting underage children from online predators. Discord is most assuredly a vector for attack, and someone pretending to be some other age or being under age is very much a real issue that is not uncommon on even smaller social networks.<p>While I&#x27;m sure some of this is related to advertising and marketing, the simple fact is, any social network (of which you can lump Discord into) will already be doing things similar to this, even if not for advertising. If not, they are willfully ignorant.<p>This isn&#x27;t some &quot;pretend&quot; problem either. Anyone suggesting otherwise is ignorant. It&#x27;s that simple.
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nininininoabout 1 year ago
In this thread, people don&#x27;t understand the size and scope of the Pig Butchering problem or Sexploitation scam problem or the Underage User problem or the Revenge Reporting problem or how ML can be used for the user&#x27;s benefit and safety or for anti-crime. But you know, go on and assume any and all technology is used for $$$$ and never to you know, stop grandmas from losing their life savings or kids from being talked to by pedophiles.