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Most common PIN codes (2012)

127 pointsby dhotsonabout 1 year ago

33 comments

SushiHippieabout 1 year ago
Previous discussion:<p>Most to least common 4-digit PIN numbers from an analysis of 3.4M - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=40306374">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=40306374</a> - (56 points, 18 comments, 5 days ago)
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BLKNSLVRabout 1 year ago
Funny&#x2F;stupid anecdote: a bunch of my kids&#x27; friends have the same phone unlock PIN as me because I set my son&#x27;s new phone PIN the same as mine so he would also be able to unlock my phone if necessary.<p>When his friends started getting phones as well, they copied his. This has migrated through some of the friends&#x27; siblings as well.
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Osirisabout 1 year ago
Quick, we should all use the least common pin numbers.<p>I switched my passwords to correct-horse-battery-staple and now I&#x27;m super secure.
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ChrisArchitectabout 1 year ago
[dupe]<p>Discussion: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=40306374">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=40306374</a><p>Some previous discussions on the 2012 source of the data (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.datagenetics.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;september32012&#x2F;index.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.datagenetics.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;september32012&#x2F;index.html</a>)<p>2018 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=17670173">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=17670173</a><p>2013 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=5124024">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=5124024</a><p>2012 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=4535417">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=4535417</a>
esafakabout 1 year ago
1234!? That&#x27;s the stupidest combination I&#x27;ve ever heard in my life! That&#x27;s the kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage!
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eqvinoxabout 1 year ago
I moved to Switzerland, and, well, PIN codes for credit cards are 6 digits here by default.<p>And now I&#x27;m asking myself why noone else does this. I don&#x27;t see hordes of Swiss people complaining about being unable to remember a 6-digit PIN at least.
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davidwabout 1 year ago
Just needs an &#x27;enter your PIN code to see how common it is!&#x27;.
quibonoabout 1 year ago
I love DataGenetics, lots of interesting puzzles like that on there. There&#x27;s a very unique style to all the visualizations and the solutions&#x2F;analyses are always clear.<p>Sadly, there was a post by the author in June 2019 about being diagnosed with Stage IV cancer [0]. There have been no posts since July 2022. I sincerely hope that&#x27;s just because Nick doesn&#x27;t have the time to blog anymore.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;datagenetics.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;june12019&#x2F;index.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;datagenetics.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;june12019&#x2F;index.html</a>
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posix86about 1 year ago
61 pins are used by 1&#x2F;3rd of all people. So statistically, if I steal 61 debit cards, assuming I have 3 tries, and assuming people choose their own pin, I should be able to get cash off one in expectation.
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NeoTarabout 1 year ago
I think the situation for actual PIN codes may be slightly better than suggested; sometimes (in the UK at least) your bank will assign you an initial PIN and I expect many people won’t change it, and by using a dump of passwords, you’ve probably captured some people who have created throwaway accounts and chosen the easiest possible password.
qingcharlesabout 1 year ago
I used be lead dev for a big streaming site with &gt;2m users and, well, no judgment here please, but the passwords were plaintext in the database.<p>So me and another dev ran a SQL script to see what the most common were.<p><pre><code> #1 was trustno1 #2 was password #3 was 1234 </code></pre> We had no password rules either, so IIRC you could have a 1-char password.
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g4zjabout 1 year ago
Before reaching the bottom of the article, I was wondering about 19xx codes, given that I&#x27;ve heard many people using years, or month&#x2F;day pairings for garage door codes and such.<p>I was glad to see those plotted out. I was also initially surprised that not a single 19xx pin made the top 20, but I suppose it makes sense considering that there are 100 different combinations of this code.
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PlunderBunnyabout 1 year ago
If this site did have a field where you could enter a pin to see how common it was, you could make a really targeted phishing attack by sending the link to someone whose pin you want to know, then looking at what they click on or enter (&quot;I&#x27;ll just see how good my pin is...&quot;)
mixmastamykabout 1 year ago
This piece reminds me of the four-digit lockbox that holds the key to get out onto our roof. Great views up there.<p>I knew that mathematically it would be pretty easy to brute force, and figured I could belt out a thousand combos per day and probably get it done within the week or so. &quot;Well, no time like the present,&quot; I thought, &quot;...better get crackin&#x27;.&quot; <i>((of knuckles))</i><p>Changed the combo to 0000, pulled the handle, and... click! Opened on the first try. :-D
dyingkneepadabout 1 year ago
TIL brute-forcing from 0000 to 9999 is a decent strategy.
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doolsabout 1 year ago
Not that many futurama fans in those data breaches ...
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withinboredomabout 1 year ago
Seeing my pin as one of the least common ... guess I need to change my pin because they&#x27;re about to be some of the most common...
hi-v-rocknrollabout 1 year ago
Repeats, sequences, dates, and those ending in 7.<p>Use a CSTRNG and as long of a PIN as possible to prevent rampant spending. ;@)
gullywhumperabout 1 year ago
If this analysis is from 2012, I wonder if the results would look much different using data since then? Would any patterns have changed that much? Other than more birth years in 20--, my initial guess would be no.
jakub_gabout 1 year ago
Side note: DataGenetics has been my favorite blog in mid-2010s. Lots of great posts:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.datagenetics.com&#x2F;blog.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.datagenetics.com&#x2F;blog.html</a>
linsomniacabout 1 year ago
Whenever I&#x27;m asked for a 4 digit PIN: `echo $[RANDOM%10000]`
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LouisSayersabout 1 year ago
My sister had a key lock box at home that she didn&#x27;t know the code for.<p>I had a look on YouTube and sure enough there was an easy way to pick the lock.<p>The resulting code - 01234
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mmh0000about 1 year ago
I like that &#x27;1701&#x27; is lite up brightly in there... Please excuse me while I go and change my PIN.
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r00dYabout 1 year ago
If we start picking the least popular pin codes they&#x27;ll stop being the least popular. What a tragedy
sys_64738about 1 year ago
I&#x27;ve change my PIN codes to use the least used ones now. Nobody can guess them so I am very secure.
jagged-chiselabout 1 year ago
Glad to know my choice of code is relatively unused I guess
bdangubicabout 1 year ago
not a single least common pin contains all prime number which is interesting
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alexanderscottabout 1 year ago
that’s amazing! I’ve got the same combination on my luggage!
hi-v-rocknrollabout 1 year ago
<i>And change the combination on my luggage!</i>
arp242about 1 year ago
Actual article: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.datagenetics.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;september32012&#x2F;index.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.datagenetics.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;september32012&#x2F;index.html</a><p>Should be changed to this, rather than screenshot + link blogspam.
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karaterobotabout 1 year ago
Looks like my PIN code, 4968, is pretty secure. I recommend using that one if you aren&#x27;t already.
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thr0waway001about 1 year ago
6969
iNicabout 1 year ago
I think the least common PIN codes are fascinating. I&#x27;m surprised by the number of 7s in these. They looks like numbers you would end up with if you asked someone to think of a random 4 digit number.<p>List transcribed by ChatGPT: 8557, 8438, 9539, 7063, 6827, 0859, 6793, 0738, 6835, 8093, 9047, 0439, 8196, 6693, 7394, 9480, 8398, 7637, 9629, 8068.
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