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The People Deliberately Killing Facebook

127 pointsby bgraingerabout 1 year ago

8 comments

milderworkaccabout 1 year ago
Not sure where to start with this one.<p>Can anybody briefly explain what a “rot economist” is? Is it meant to be capitalised “ROT economist” which stands for something? Has my browser not rendered the characters correctly or something?<p>This story of course includes the now almost mandatory attack on e2e encryption, which according to this account when coupled with the people you know feature is “a dangerous tool” - with little explanation as to the nature and size of the danger.<p>This part is interesting: “Worse still, accounts that were less than 15-days-old now made up 20 percent of all outgoing friend requests, and more than half of friend requests were sent by somebody who was making more than 50 of them a day…”<p>The explanation leaves a lot to be desired though:<p>“…heavily suggesting that Facebook was growing its platform’s “connections” through spam.”<p>Doesn’t this make perfect sense where a new user joins Facebook with no friends to start with, then in the first few weeks of using it finds all of their friends and adds them?<p>The whole thing reads like a grab bag of grievances rather than a forensic takedown, shame.
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nojvekabout 1 year ago
Companies make profits because people spend their money on what those companies have to offer.<p>Facebook offers a dopamine hit. And so does X and TikTok. To some extent also HN.<p>The infinite scroll slot machine.<p>At the end of the day, we are an evolved version of dopamine driven apes.<p>Meta family of Apps (Facebook, Messenger, Whatsapp, Instagram) has total WAU of 3.05 billion. Almost half the planet.<p>---<p>Sam Altman, Sundar Picchai, Mark Zuckerberg saying that AI will somehow cure cancer and solve climate change seems pretty far fetched.<p>The closer reality is that as the AI models advance, they will figure out ever better ways of making their apps as addictive as cocaine.
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danjlabout 1 year ago
Would be more interesting without the ginormous chip on the author&#x27;s shoulders.
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dasil003about 1 year ago
There&#x27;s a fair amount of insight in this article buried under layers of insults and ad hominem attacks. Perhaps it&#x27;s a bit ironic that the author feels the need to frame things in this way to drive engagement because that&#x27;s what the internet has become. It might feel cathartic to blame Zuckerberg for this, but honestly he was <i>just a fucking kid</i> when these wheels were set in motion, manipulated by forces larger than himself.<p>The incentives created by capitalism + internet + global web&#x2F;smart phone adoption mean a lot of what happened was inevitable. If someone in Zuck&#x27;s position had taken a moral stand along the way, you could just swap out their names with any of a million opportunists ready to swoop in. I say this not to absolve Mark, Sheryl or anyone else involved, but just to recognize that these are systemic failures that need systemic solutions. Pinning the blame on individuals doesn&#x27;t get us any closer to solving the general problems that all social media platforms invite.
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gradschoolfailabout 1 year ago
Notably absent from article: the surprisingly equanimous opinion of Boz —- Agrippa to Zuck’s Augustus. I have to reread his post on perverse incentives now<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;boz.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;incentives" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;boz.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;incentives</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=39277516">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=39277516</a>
MathMonkeyManabout 1 year ago
&gt; [...] thanks to Meta’s outright abusive approach to social media where the customer is not only wrong, but should ideally have little control over what they see.<p>It&#x27;s trite at this point, and yet worth reiterating: You are not the customer.
LightFogabout 1 year ago
HN rules&#x2F;ethos don’t agree but the lack of ‘politeness’ in these posts is refreshing. ‘Manners’ have long been a way to reinforce power imbalances and avoid scrutiny. Us plebs shouldn’t shy away from calling out corporate scumbaggery for what it is - what is more damaging, impolite prose or what this company is doing to our society?
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gravesismeabout 1 year ago
This guy just keeps trying to make money! How dare he increase profits!
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