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Electric Cars Are Suddenly Becoming Affordable

22 pointsby slayerjain12 months ago

10 comments

nehagup12 months ago
They aren't suddenly becoming affordable. They have been gradually becoming affordable over the last decade due to lower supply chain costs and higher demand.
gtmitchell12 months ago
I’m reading this more like “New York Times reporter discovers used electric vehicles exist, cost less than new ones.”<p>Used EVs have been affordable for years. In fact, cars like the Nissan Leaf have depreciated so quickly that they’re a downright bargain (as long as your use case lines up with the limited range).
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_fat_santa12 months ago
They might be more affordable now but accessibility I think is still low because of charging infrastructure. I live around a bunch of apartment complexes, probably 1,200 units between 3-4 properties, and none of them have charges available. I always say the issue is not getting homeowners to adopt electric cars because they largely have garage spaces where they can install chargers, the issue will be getting adoption to folks living in apartments and other places where you cant just install a charger. How will those folks charge their cars?
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gjsman-100012 months ago
$40K, &quot;affordable,&quot; shows what a bubble NYTimes is living in.<p>Let&#x27;s remember that the median income in the US is $37,585. Half of people make less. Don&#x27;t spend more than you make in a year on a new vehicle.
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slayerjain12 months ago
Only because they know Chinese EV will take 100% of the market if they do not come up with cheaper EV.
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keploy12 months ago
They should really define &quot;affordable&quot;.
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slayerjain12 months ago
Because the EV industry has reached a new maturation stage in which companies lower prices to capture market share.
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steelframe12 months ago
I&#x27;m aware that car prices are falling across the board, but I see EVs being hit harder than ICEs. I&#x27;ve heard from some local dealerships I visited recently that new EVs are sitting on the lot for longer too.<p>My I-PACE cost me over $80k when it was a one-of-a-kind vehicle, an EV from a mature car manufacturer with a luxury interior, sporty performance, hatchback, AWD, and heat pump. It won the 2019 World Car of the Year award (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.worldcarawards.com&#x2F;web&#x2F;2019_results.asp" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.worldcarawards.com&#x2F;web&#x2F;2019_results.asp</a>). It can easily make it the 150 miles from Seattle to Yakima over the PNW Cascade mountain pass in driving snow without needing to stop to charge. It was a bit of a stretch for me to spend that much on a car, but to me it was -- and still is -- a great car.<p>It wasn&#x27;t too long before some other EVs with similar characteristics entered the marketplace, and at lower prices. Probably the biggest differences include slightly more splashy range on the spec sheet, although I would argue Jaguar is being more conservative than they really need to be with their advertised specs, and a faster charge rate. In other words, the newer EVs can get from point A to point B with less time spent at the rapid chargers.<p>Therefore my I-PACE&#x27;s auction value is almost down to $20k, in spite of being low mileage and in excellent condition. I still get as much range out of it as I did the day I bought it. There are a few reasons for the precipitous price drop, but I suspect the overriding one is that nobody wants an EV that charges at 80kW.<p>Personally I use my gas car when doing road trips that would otherwise require a rapid charging stop, and I exclusively charge the I-PACE overnight in my garage. So I guess it&#x27;s still worth a heck of a lot more than $20k to me, which is why I don&#x27;t think I&#x27;ll part ways with it until something really expensive breaks on it.<p>Meanwhile those who have EVs that don&#x27;t use Tesla&#x27;s supercharger network are stuck with the likes of Electrify America when they&#x27;re road tripping. In that case I&#x27;m not sure your overall experience is going to be all that better whether your car is capable of pulling 80kW or 150kW at 35% SoC. I imagine people in 6-figure Taycans capable of pulling 270kW sitting in the same line as the $15k used Bolts capable of pulling 50kW for one of only 2 functioning chargers at an Electrify America site in a rural Walmart parking lot to open up, and then the charger ends up only being able to put out 100kW if you&#x27;re lucky. The charging capabilities of your EV don&#x27;t mean much if you can&#x27;t take advantage of them.<p>Maybe the &quot;unwashed masses&quot; are starting to hear about the horror show that non-Tesla charging networks are as non-enthusiasts are suckered into buying one off the lot without the dealership being completely forthright with them about the true state of things, and that&#x27;s being reflected in the relative price of used EVs.
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slackfan12 months ago
About as affordable as living in new york.<p>Reminder that your taxes pay for the subsidies that make the prices on EVs even anywhere near that &quot;affordable&quot; range.
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