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Htmx Sucks

35 pointsby asib12 months ago

11 comments

mtlynch12 months ago
For anyone who was as confused as I was: Carson Gross, the author of this essay is also the creator of htmx.<p>I thought at first that the essay was going to be a joke of &quot;all these weaknesses are actually strengths,&quot; but I feel like most of the criticisms in the essay are valid. Like I don&#x27;t know why you would use var instead of let or const in modern JS, and htmx does indeed increase the attack surface for XSS.<p>I guess he&#x27;s just being self-deprecating? Saying the mean things about his project to prove that he&#x27;s more aware of them than the trolls?<p>For context, I personally like htmx even though my experience with it is limited.
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metayrnc12 months ago
I think this is way more effective marketing than bragging about your project. Great job!
minimaxir12 months ago
I&#x27;m all for self-deprecating humor but this is more confusing than funny.
pudwallabee12 months ago
Wow, well I guess its good to know what your weaknesses are. I support anyone who bothers to try and improve the UI situation with the web.<p>Unfortunately, I think at some point the industry is going to have to start over and throw away HTML and CSS. Maybe throw away the browser as well. Javascript will survive on its own, but who knows if it will be useful in Web 6.0<p>The web browser is really holding us back. Something’s gotta give. And htmx is not going to be it.
yencabulator11 months ago
I agree with some of this.<p>Specifically, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;htmx.org&#x2F;essays&#x2F;htmx-sucks&#x2F;#the-creator-is-unhinged" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;htmx.org&#x2F;essays&#x2F;htmx-sucks&#x2F;#the-creator-is-unhinged</a>
jasonjmcghee12 months ago
In case it&#x27;s unclear, written by the creator of htmx.
vessenes12 months ago
…Still parsing how much of this is a troll post… It’s hard to know when it comes to JavaScript devs. I’m at 80% troll, 20% actual critique.
waldrews12 months ago
As previously done by the rock group KMFDM.
recursivedoubts12 months ago
most of these criticisms of htmx are valid, btw
masfoobar11 months ago
lol. Carson is obviously aware of the criticisms he faces.<p>The best one is the &quot;Duplicating (Or More!) Your APIs&quot;<p>How is this a problem?<p>The backend would be broken down into layers. Data layer, business layer, etc. For the website, you have a layer to fetch the data to return html. For another thing (ie rest api) - you fetch the SAME data, return in json.<p>How is this more work, again?<p>NOTE - Yes, my comment is not aimed at Carson, but those that genuinely use it as an excuse to attack htmx.
cwrichardkim12 months ago
lol I now know who Carson gross is