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Dear Spotify, let kids hear music!

4 pointsby FrankyHollywood11 months ago
My kid was singing a song this week &quot;What feels more awesome than taking a shit? It’s dropping a turd from your anus&quot;. It&#x27;s a Dutch song by comedian Brigitte Kaandorp [0]. Kids love it, because it is about poop.<p>It&#x27;s fun of course, but once this has been listened you enter a personal Spotify bubble of recommendations. A song by “Boer Harm&quot; was recommended next. My 8 year old kid was listening to &quot;I can fuck very well, I will lick your anus and beyond. I like it dirty and filthy&quot; [1].<p>Spotify is not a record label and selection criteria seem to be sparse. There is a whole sewer of songs only about farting, shitting, penises and what not. The sole purpose seems to be to make some money out of kids searching dirty stuff.<p>When I was young I loved to discover new music. From my parents record collection I started listening to Queen, Vangelis and sometimes Bach. I loved it! Being a kid today makes it a lot more difficult to discover great music. All the music in the world is available to you, but once you have listened to a poop and fart song it’s over, you are in the dirty rabbit hole.<p>Yes a kids may laugh at an occasional naughty song, but the next recommendation should be music. I’m pretty sure Spotify can estimate a listeners age with a more 95% accuracy. Kids will be kids, but surprise and inspire them, kids are not stupid. Let kids hear music!<p>[0] https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=GT9QRmgwVYs<p>[1] https:&#x2F;&#x2F;genius.com&#x2F;Boer-harm-brommers-kieken-lyrics

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mpalmer11 months ago
If passing along particular cultural artifacts to your children is important to you, don&#x27;t delegate the responsibility to an algorithm managed by a for-profit business.<p>Also:<p>&gt; Is Spotify appropriate for my child?<p>&gt; We have designed Spotify to be appropriate for listeners 13+ years of age, although the minimum age for using the service varies according to local law.<p>&gt; What if my child is too young for Spotify?<p>&gt; We encourage you to check out Spotify Kids, our separate, ad-free service designed specifically for children 12 and younger.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.spotify.com&#x2F;safetyandprivacy&#x2F;files&#x2F;Parental_Guide.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.spotify.com&#x2F;safetyandprivacy&#x2F;files&#x2F;Parental_Guid...</a>
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talldayo11 months ago
Spotify lets you disable Explicit-tagged songs, if that&#x27;s what you want: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.spotify.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;article&#x2F;explicit-content&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.spotify.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;article&#x2F;explicit-content&#x2F;</a><p>Besides that though, I don&#x27;t really know what we should expect. Kids are going to Google stupid stuff as long as they have access to the internet, and as long as the internet isn&#x27;t moderated they will usually find that stupid stuff. Services like Spotify and YouTube don&#x27;t really have some social obligation to redirect them to a <i>Rolling Stones</i> song instead of the next Skibidi toilet video.
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null_investor11 months ago
Your request is missing the product research and feasibility part, which is that there&#x27;s likely 0.1% or less kids that navigate and select songs on Spotify.<p>This means this likely has no business case, and you can imagine how laborious tagging and labelling music is.<p>As somebody else pointed out, one could avoid explicit songs, but that might not work as expected, as that song you mentioned yourself could be labeled as explicit.<p>Whenever something doesn&#x27;t work the way you expect, maybe it&#x27;s worth applying common sense knowledge to figure out whether it doesn&#x27;t work the way you expect because the money incentive isn&#x27;t there or just because it would be tough to build it.