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Amazon fined $5.9M for breaking labor law in California

220 pointsby green-eclipse11 months ago

26 comments

green-eclipse11 months ago
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IG_Semmelweiss11 months ago
Retail has had labor quotas (with serious health&#x2F;mental consequences) since time immemorial, but i don&#x27;t see any outrage against Sears, ToysRus, or BedBath.<p>Why ?
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solarkraft11 months ago
I would be devastated if I was fined 6 cents after robbing an entire store
fallingknife11 months ago
The issue here is that Amazon had productivity quotas for its workers that were kept secret from the workers. It&#x27;s the keeping a secret part that is illegal. On the one hand, this seems reasonable, but the fact that the law only applies to warehouse workers (the &quot;Warehouse Quota Law&quot;) and was passed in 2022 makes me suspicious that this isn&#x27;t a good faith worker protection law but rather specifically targeted at Amazon for political reasons. If this practice is so bad, why is it allowed for all other industries?
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23B111 months ago
1. Proportionality. Fines should be proportional to the company&#x27;s size, revenue, and the severity of the violation. The financial impact should be significant enough to grab the company&#x27;s attention and incentivize change.<p>2. Escalating penalties. Implement a system of escalating penalties for repeated violations w&#x2F;increased monitoring.<p>3. Transparency. Publicly disclose the details of labor violations and the fines imposed.<p>4. Targeted sanctions. Temporary suspension of licenses, government contracts, at local, state &amp; federal level.<p>5. Victim comp. Ensure that a portion of fines go towards comping the affected workers.
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ryandrake11 months ago
Can Amazon even count that low?
schneems11 months ago
Is this more or less than they made from breaking said law.<p>I know regulatory capture is a thing but it seems like there should be some minimum “Crimes committed for financial gain that are punished with a fine must have a minimum fine of 100x the amount of money they made from the crime”<p>The 90’s saw a constant stream of journalists and politicians praising 3 strikes laws. Where’s our “100x FAFO laws”?
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harimau77711 months ago
Maybe I&#x27;m not following, but I&#x27;m seeing tons of responses saying that a low fine is alright because this is a local violation. What is the reasoning there? Doesn&#x27;t the profit go to the corporation as a whole?
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ourmandave11 months ago
Everybody saying slap-on-the-wrist.<p>But does the next time fine consider priors?
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ivanjermakov11 months ago
Why taxes are proportional to income but fines aren&#x27;t?
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shreezus11 months ago
$5.9M is not even a rounding error for a $2T corporation.
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the_optimist11 months ago
The company “failed to provide written notice of quotas” to employees, as required. Tape a sheet of paper on the wall with the numbers, done. Meanwhile, the antipathy of jealousy is palpable.
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metadat11 months ago
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system211 months ago
Amazon makes that money in mere minutes. This is not even a slap on the wrist.
Arch-TK11 months ago
5.9 cents? Where did they get the decicents from?
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itsTyrion11 months ago
5.9 mil?? that&#x27;s like fining a working class citizen 5 cents LMAO
m46311 months ago
interesting that this is published on Jeff Bezos&#x27; newspaper.
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timetraveller2611 months ago
this is an insult to all working force
numbers11 months ago
Amazon made $64,809,782.60 in revenue every hour in Q3 2023.<p>Source: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.junglescout.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;how-much-does-amazon-make-in-a-year&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.junglescout.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;how-much-does-amazon-make-i...</a>
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riiii11 months ago
Wow, that won&#x27;t teach them.
sleepybrett11 months ago
man, this is going to set them back at least 15 seconds.
otikik11 months ago
Oh wow $5.9M<p>Where are going to get their peanuts from now?
StarterPro11 months ago
That&#x27;s, what? Half an hour of operation to them?
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cush11 months ago
They make that every 5 minutes
insane_dreamer11 months ago
California: You&#x27;re breaking the law. You must treat your employees better, or else!<p>Amazon: Oooohh, scary!!!
bpodgursky11 months ago
&gt; California investigated two Amazon facilities near Los Angeles and in May found that the company failed to “provide written notice of quotas to which each employee is subject,” according to a copy of the citation shared with The Washington Post by the Warehouse Worker Resource Center, a nonprofit that advocates for improving working conditions at warehouses.<p>Very few workplaces have written quotas for employees. Be angry about Amazon or whatever, but let&#x27;s just be real that if Amazon is guilty of heinous crimes for not giving workers a strict written quota, so are 98% of other employers, large and small.
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