Eclipse always left me with the impression that it was more interested in architecting generically extensible platforms and protocols moreso than a nice, clean, user ready tool with all the kinks worked out. I was so scarred from Eclipse and OSGI and Equinox and xml manifest files and configurations and project import that never worked properly, that I never touched anything but vim for a whole decade, until first VSCode and then IntelliJ eventually won me back over by being /so/ incredibly polished that almost everything worked on the first try and with no configuration. Judging by the other comments here, I'm not alone in thinking that that impression hasn't gone away, and they aren't helping it now. From the article:<p>> Note that Eclipse Theia IDE is a separate component from the overall Theia project's related Eclipse Theia Platform, used to build IDEs and tools based on modern web technologies.<p>So you got the Theia project, the Eclipse Theia Platform, and the Eclipse Theia IDE, all fully separate things. "Ah" they will say, "what's so hard to understand? It's a project that works on an IDE development platform under the larger Eclipse umbrella, with which we built an IDE, but of course it has nothing to do with the original Eclipse IDE". None of which makes me want to use it or means anything to me.<p>When you go to <a href="https://theia-ide.org/" rel="nofollow">https://theia-ide.org/</a> the big text says:<p>> An Open, Flexible and Extensible Platform to efficiently develop and deliver Cloud & Desktop IDEs and tools with modern web technologies.<p>Dear god, please put that stuff on theia-platform.org or something instead, and market the platform separately. I know you're proud of it, but stop telling me about it please, I'm not trying to develop IDEs, which is an extremely narrow niche. "It can host VS Code extensions" and "vendor-neutral" is pretty much the only notable things from my POV - which is a perfectly great selling point, mind you - and they bury those below the fold.<p>There's a reason you want this: the more people use Theia, the more people will choose to use it as an extension platform. Otherwise it's likelier to go the way of the original Eclipse IDE (whose homepage notably still doesn't say "blazing fast", "rock solid" and "works out of the box" but has room for a zillion other things like "preferences page for Generic Text Editor" and "jar viewer").<p>There's also a reason why almost every editor website starts with massive screenshots of the tool itself, because people want to be able to imagine what it would be like to use a new tool before taking the big step to actually try. This is marketing 101. I wish they'd just flat out copy a competitor's page, and bill themselves as "everything you get from VSCode, but actually extensible and actually open source. By the way, look at the cool IDEs other people built on top of this, if you want to do that too, check out theia platform".<p>It could be great, but I'm just seeing so much self sabotage, it makes me sad.