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Ask HN: How to get back my domains with Porkbun after fraudulent dispute

13 pointsby shlomo_z10 months ago
Hi, I have been using Porkbun domains for almost a year, and have been really happy. Until, recently, I ran into an issue. My friend paid for a domain for me using his credit card. At the time, I didn&#x27;t think twice. But, alas, someone made unauthorized charges on his card, and my friend disputed a bunch of charges. Unfortunately, that included charges for three domains that I bought from Porkbun.<p>I didn&#x27;t know about all this until a bit later when I got an email from porkbun saying my account was in queue for suspension unless I quickly tried contacting them but they couldn&#x27;t help over the phone, and said I must email them. I did.<p>Without anything getting resolved within 24 hours, all my sites went down. Not just the ones that were disputed, all of them on the account. &quot;Okay, hopefully this will be resolved soon. I will try to stay calm.&quot; So I emailed them and explained the situation, asking them to allow me to pay back using my own credit card. They weren&#x27;t interested, and told me I must get the disputes resolved in their favor. No problem, my friend had already called up the bank for that, and told me that the bank said &quot;Sure, it should show up within 72 hours, sometimes longer.&quot;<p>I continued emailing porkbun and the said they saw no update about the dispute on their end of things. They recommended I show a document from the bank that says it was resolved in Porkbun&#x27;s favor. After asking if there is any other way to quickly get stuff up and running, they sent me, a link to verify my identity using government identification. After successfully identifying with them, they gave me back access to my account, just without buying and transferring priveleges. Thank you Porkbun, I really appreciate it. Now, my site is up and running, and will hopefully continue that way until I need to renew my domain.<p>After me calling my friend and convincing him to call his bank many times, I finally got a document from the bank, but it only had the two charges listed on it. I sent it to Porkbun and told them I will work on getting the third one.<p>Also, within our conversations, so far going on for a few months, I have offered multiple times to pay up to $150 (domains were ~$10 each) to get this fully resolved. They weren&#x27;t interested, and said I should resolve it with my bank. They are hard to communicate with, and often send extremely vague responses, if any at all. Like this one: &quot;&quot;&quot; .. those documents are still only referring to two of the transactions. Since there has been no update with our payment processor, I&#x27;d recommend continuing to work with your bank to have them decide the dispute review in our favor. &quot;&quot;&quot;<p>What does that mean? If I get a document for the third transaction, I will be good? Or, does it mean that the first two documents don&#x27;t help either?<p>This is where I am at now. I can&#x27;t reach them through the phone (no phone support for fraud cases), the email communication is very vague and slow. I still have ~9 months until I need to renew the domain I care about. However, I am concerned about getting my account suspended again, and I don&#x27;t really see an end in sight.<p>To be clear, I don&#x27;t blame Porkbun for this. They are a great registrar and I would recommend them anyone looking for a domain. Just, don&#x27;t dispute the charge, simple :). But now I feel stuck, because I am in a situation I have very little control over, especially because I don&#x27;t have access to my friend&#x27;s bank. And he isn&#x27;t either easy to reach, because he is in school and has very little internet connection. It&#x27;s a mess. I run a small ecommerce site, and I&#x27;m concerned about keeping the domain. I learned lessons from this, including to pay for things with my own money.<p>I was hoping they&#x27;d simply accept another payment, but that doesn&#x27;t seem to be a solution to them. So my question is, does anyone have a suggestion to fully resolve this besides for just continuing doing what I am already doing? Is there another way to approach this?

2 comments

_DeadFred_10 months ago
Chargebacks are a big permanent mark on a company&#x27;s credit card processing. Porkbun has clearly told you what needs to happen:<p>&quot;have them decide the dispute review in our favor&quot;<p>Short of you getting all three of these removed from their record you are hit.<p>This happens with all kinds of accounts. If you chargeback against a company that company is done doing business with you. &#x27;Paying&#x27; for what you already paid them for once isn&#x27;t going to undo the damage that chargebacks do. They want the chargebacks gone. It&#x27;s not just a bounced check, it&#x27;s a bounced check that adds to their &#x27;permanent record&#x27; &#x27;and Porkbun allowed a fraudulent transaction, lower your trust of future transactions from Porkbun.&quot; Which results in things like the companies credit card funds being held longer (to allow for chargebacks to come out). Imagine if a random person resulted in your ecommerce site&#x27;s payout being permanently a month or three later.<p>You have already burned through a pretty high multiple of whatever margin they make from $10 domains so the fact they&#x27;re pretty civil says a lot about the company and their approach to customer service. Get that last dispute resolved in their favor or give up on the business relationship.
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ipaddr10 months ago
Time to register a different domain. You have been down long enough and wasted too much time.