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California Gov Newsom issues executive order for removal of homeless encampments

35 pointsby Ozarkian10 months ago

14 comments

JumpCrisscross10 months ago
Two related issues: criminal justice reform and homelessness. There are grave humanitarian concerns in both. But the victims’ advocates have no willingness to compromise. They are also a strong minority, which means they need others’ support to govern.<p>That unyieldingness, in the case of homelessness, has led to ridiculous asks, <i>e.g.</i> treating any law enforcement against anyone homeless as criminalising poverty. Given the bloc is unwilling to compromise, it’s not a surprise that the centre is now shifting to those on the right. Hence, the policy whipsaw from focussing on there being homeless people to the problems that causes.
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Ozarkian10 months ago
I wonder what is going to happen to all the actual people.<p>Sure, the authorities can force all the people off their &quot;campsites&quot; and send all their belongings to the dump. But you&#x27;ve still obviously got the homeless person there, in a more vulnerable position than they were before.
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tracker110 months ago
What&#x27;s the worst that can happen if someone who isn&#x27;t homeless, but traveling, working, or otherwise just want&#x2F;needs to take a short nap. Likely in their car in a public parking space?<p>The other side, is even in clearing out parks, and encampments it would help if there were a place to go. There are a lot of issues, and having worked with homeless charity groups, drug addiction is at the center of most of it... you can&#x27;t really force someone to get and stay clean... The system needs some form of outlet.
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trinsic210 months ago
Great. Where&#x27;s the companion executive order to provide tools for people that are displaced by rent inflation transitional and other situations that cause hopelessness?
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Teknomancer10 months ago
He maybe should have issued an executive order banning AirB&amp;B instead. That would be just as preposterous, yet may actually have some short term returns that reduce the cost of housing. The high costs make it incredibly difficult to obtain and maintain housing in CA for low and median income earners.
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tylervigen10 months ago
Here is the actual executive order: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gov.ca.gov&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2024&#x2F;07&#x2F;2024-Encampments-EO-7-24.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gov.ca.gov&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2024&#x2F;07&#x2F;2024-Encam...</a>
legitster10 months ago
Direct link to Newsom&#x27;s tweet: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;GavinNewsom&#x2F;status&#x2F;1816497533772038507" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;GavinNewsom&#x2F;status&#x2F;1816497533772038507</a><p>Surprised by how brazen the message is.
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rasengan10 months ago
&gt; He pushed and campaigned for a ballot measure earlier this year to allow the state to borrow nearly $6.4 billion to build 4,350 housing units.<p>This is quite a bit of money -- about $1.47m per unit.<p>Anyway and finally, after metropolitan cities in California are now used to visually represent slums, this has been issued.<p>I hope that metropolitan cities in California can become clean and safe again.
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theultdev10 months ago
$6.4b for 4,350 housing units?<p>Who is providing those near $1.5m&#x2F;ea units?
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bityard10 months ago
Huh. So as someone who lives in the Midwest and knows next to nothing about the west coast... is Gavin Belson (from the TV show) intended to be a satire caricature of Gavin Newsom? Because the hair and mannerisms are quite spot on.
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underseacables10 months ago
The cycle repeats itself. At first I thought the Governor&#x27;s order was just a lack of leadership - kicking the can down the road. Instead, it&#x27;s a continuance of the vicious cycle of homelessness. The state is not adequately providing shelter for those who need it. The state lacks the funding for housing first, however many qualify for state benefits.<p>The state is a patchwork of welcoming, and rejecting of the unhoused. Until there&#x27;s a uniform policy in one direction or the other, the people affected by these policies, are just going to get harassed and chased around the state.
xenospn10 months ago
“ The order makes clear that the decision to remove the encampments remains in the hands of local authorities.”<p>Nothing is going to happen.
keb_10 months ago
This is a good thing. Everyone seems to ignore the worst part about homelessness: homeless people, shelters, and their encampments devalue the homes and properties of homeowners in the area. So as soon as a homeless shelter is built on your block, boom your property&#x27;s value is now cut in half. This is a huge problem and ruins many people&#x27;s financial investments.
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rurban10 months ago
Still on his presidential campaign, I assume. I thought he was dropped by everyone already
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