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Oh man! Our entire team has been replaced by Vietnam developers.

98 pointsby rustoo10 months ago

9 comments

loloquwowndueo10 months ago
Plot twist: it’s actually about developers in India bemoaning being replaced with Vietnamese ones.
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t0mas8810 months ago
In the not too distant future the basic CRUD-development for boring enterprise apps is going to be done by AI models. You only need a human to write the prompts and review the output.<p>That human may become less and less technically skilled over time as the models become better.<p>But costs for AI could be similar to developer wages in emerging markets for a while... I think nobody is currently charging the real cost of their AI stuff to end users yet.
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Teknomancer10 months ago
Starlink in Nairobi City high rise, soon the Africans will be stealing the Vietnamese Devs work.<p>Life is a cycle. Karma is a bitch. So be nice and diversify your skillset.
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markus_zhang10 months ago
The only way for individuals to fight offshoring: get deep into a tech skill or&#x2F;and human connection so it&#x27;s tough to replace you in the industry. You will get laid off but another company will pick you up quickly.<p>More thoughts: A system programmer in a non-cost center is the best pick. A game engine programmer is better than a devops in that perspective.
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redleggedfrog10 months ago
I can educated guess the subtext on this from seeing it so many, many times: software is being deprecated and&#x2F;or going into maintenance mode, or isn&#x27;t good ROI, so bean-counters trying to save money by finding sub-minimum wage labor with <i>zero</i> concern for software quality. Now starts the death spiral of weeks to get anything done because ESL developers can&#x27;t understand the specifications nor the docs and focus on just getting shit hacked in because they couldn&#x27;t code their way out of a wet paper bag. Bugs proliferate and more hacks applied until development collapses in a pile of un maintainable junk and then new shiney is brought in in an attempt to make progress before business folds. High probability business folds.<p>When this happens get out. The shitty developers will taint your own skills eventually.
pyb10 months ago
Reminded of Steve Yegge&#x27;s claim a couple years ago that India had run out of developers.<p>What happens when Vietnam runs out too?
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moralestapia10 months ago
I&#x27;m surprised it was a cost-based decision as Indian-based teams are already on the lower end of that.<p>I believe there was some other kind of added value involved, perhaps they hired a more competent team or with a broader skillset.
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renewiltord10 months ago
Fascinating. It&#x27;s an eternal competition. Surprised that the transformation isn&#x27;t more LLMs. I think outsourcing teams can be much smaller now.
rhelz10 months ago
Exactly why I think American employees should agree with executives that it is important to not work remote.<p>If there really is no discernible advantages to on-site working, the jobs are going to go to the countries where employees are paid the least.
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