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Anthropic is scraping websites so fast it's causing problems

50 pointsby michaelhoffman10 months ago

11 comments

jsheard10 months ago
At least their bots accurately identify themselves in the User-Agent field even when they&#x27;re ignoring robots.txt, so serverside blocking is on the table for now at least.<p>Bytedances crawler (Bytespider) is another one which disregards robots.txt but still identifies itself, and you probably should block it because it&#x27;s <i>very</i> aggressive.<p>It&#x27;s going to get annoying fast when they inevitably go full blackhat and start masquerading as normal browser traffic.
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ericholscher10 months ago
For those saying &quot;just use a CDN&quot;, it&#x27;s not nearly that simple. Even behind a CDN, the crawlers on our site are hitting large files that aren&#x27;t frequently accessed. This leads to large cache miss rates:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fosstodon.org&#x2F;@readthedocs&#x2F;112877477202118215" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fosstodon.org&#x2F;@readthedocs&#x2F;112877477202118215</a>
l1n10 months ago
&gt; Sites use robots.txt to tell well-behaved web crawlers what data is up for grabs and what data is off limits. Anthropic ignores it and takes your data anyway. That’s even if you’ve updated your robots.txt with the latest configuration details for Anthropic. [404 Media]<p>doesn&#x27;t seem supported by the citation, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.404media.co&#x2F;websites-are-blocking-the-wrong-ai-scrapers-because-ai-companies-keep-making-new-ones&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.404media.co&#x2F;websites-are-blocking-the-wrong-ai-s...</a>
JohnFen10 months ago
It didn&#x27;t take long for the &quot;responsible&quot; Anthropic to show its true colors.
ChrisArchitect10 months ago
[dupe]<p>Some more discussion <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=41060559">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=41060559</a>
lolpanda10 months ago
Cloudflare has a switch to block all the unknown bots other than the well behaved one. Would this be a simple solution to most of the sites? I wonder if the main concern here is that the sites don&#x27;t want to waste bandwidth&#x2F;compute for AI bots or they don&#x27;t want their content to be used for training.
jakubsuchy10 months ago
Just like Cloudflare many providers now just allow blocking: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.haproxy.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;how-to-reliably-block-ai-crawlers-using-haproxy-enterprise" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.haproxy.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;how-to-reliably-block-ai-crawle...</a><p>(disclaimer: I wrote this blog post)
superkuh10 months ago
I&#x27;ve noticed Anthropic bots in my logs for more than a year now and I welcome them. I&#x27;d love for their LLM to be better at what I&#x27;m interested in. I run my website off my home connection on a desktop computer and I&#x27;ve never had a problem. I&#x27;m not saying my dozens of run-ins with the anthropic bots (there have been 3 variations I&#x27;ve seen so far) are totally representative, but they&#x27;ve been respecting my robots.txt.<p>They even respect extended robots.txt features like,<p><pre><code> User-agent: * Disallow: &#x2F;library&#x2F;*.pdf$ </code></pre> I make my websites for other people to see. They are not secrets I hoard who&#x27;s value goes away when copied. The more copies and derivations the better.<p>I guess ideas like creative commons and sharing go away when the smell of money enters the water. Better lock all your text behind paywalls so the evil corporations won&#x27;t get it. Just be aware, for every incorporated entity you block you&#x27;re blocking just as many humans with false positives, if not more. This anti-&quot;scraping&quot; hysteria is mostly profit motivated.
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zorrn10 months ago
I don&#x27;t know if I should Block Claude. I think it&#x27;s really good and use it regularly and I think it&#x27;s not fair to say that others should provide content.
dzonga10 months ago
what happens when ai scrappers no longer have info to scrap.<p>funny thing - with wasm, the web won&#x27;t be scrappable.
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iLoveOncall10 months ago
One million hits in 24 hours is only 11 TPS, if that&#x27;s causing issues, then Anthropic isn&#x27;t the problem, your application or hosting is.
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