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Ask HN: I have a startup but no marketing budget, how to promote?

10 pointsby tomashalmost 13 years ago
Some time ago together with a friend we've launched musicrage.org, a HumbleBundle-like approach to selling music of independent artists. We got some recognition on the local market, but the press releases sent to sites commenting on startup market (TC, HuffingtonPost, Lifehacker and a few others) got completely ignored. We don't have much of a budget for markeing, so dear fellow hackers: what's the best (free or most cost-effective) way to promote such a site?

7 comments

Tophalmost 13 years ago
You're doing it wrong. Please don't take that first sentence the wrong way. Allow me to elaborate and I hope this helps.<p>1. Press helps but they are usually "nice to have" but whatever if you don't have them. Unless you're a well funded company doing something with a lot of famous names behind your product, generally speaking, getting techcrunched, etc... brings a singular traffic spike to your site and many may not even convert. Although this is not true in all cases, long story short, don't place bets on press. They're nice if you got them but place your bets in better medians.<p>2. Be creative in how you aim to market your startup. For us, we didn't even get techcrunched until the day we were acquired and we never got coverage on any of the other press sites you listed. That didn't change anything. I believe Alexis Ohanian (founder of Reddit, Breadpig, and Hipmunk) said something similar. Their entire marketing budget they ever spent was a whooping $500 on stickers of the Reddit alien that they use to spread all over town.<p>In our case, we were in a very niche market so we spent $400 asking for a legitimate paid review (with full disclosure and allowing the reviewer to bash us for any and all negative points if there were some) from a top blogger in our niche to reach relevant audience (was well spent) and aside from that, paying for tables and booths twice a year at a targeted conference to exhibit for our product (also well spent). Some of these things are not as expensive as they seem. That said, MAJORITY of our users and marketing channels were 100% free, especially in the early stages. We focused heavily on getting the community to help spread the world. Word of mouth is often beaten to a pulp and taken out of context. The best thing you could do is get connected to all your users and do a great job for them and let those with social influence do their thing. Find out who the top influencers are in your industry and reach out, you'll be surprise how many of them are willing to give feedback and even spread the word to their friends. Its the best way to get going in the early days.<p>3. The earlier you are in your startup, the less you should try to blow up in explosive growth. Getting attention can also have major negative consquences too. See Color. Being a startup means you have the opportunity to roll out your product slowly and test and improve constantly before it reaches the masses. Sometimes its worth getting that explosive growth a year later, etc... Just something to think about. Right now, if I were you, I would focus 100% on the community, forget the fancy marketing tactics or press. They're not what makes your business.
brandoncordellalmost 13 years ago
In your position I would do a few things.<p>1. Become an authority figure in the market. Start writing blog posts about independent music, comment on music blogs, ask for permission to write some guest posts on some (small, medium, or large) music blogs.<p>2. Reach out to independent musicians and bloggers. Send them an email, be human, start a conversation. Don't just pitch your startup to them. Define the problem which you have the solution.
patio11almost 13 years ago
Who has the audience you want? Borrow it from them. Start with your musicians fan bases.
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badclientalmost 13 years ago
I think your initial target should be people who really dig independent artists <i>and</i> proactively try to support them. Where do you find these people? At local shows.<p>I'd hit up the end of local performances and pass out flyers. You may laugh but I've found flyers to be very effective <i>if</i> you nail the targeting.<p>That aside, I'd personally simplify your pricing screen. I've already decided to buy and then find that you want me to make all these decisions about how much I want to pay overall, how much I want to pay the artist etc.
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SuperChihuahuaalmost 13 years ago
Look through these: <a href="http://www.ideaoverload.com/Find-ideas/Finished-ideas/Media-about-sales-marketing/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ideaoverload.com/Find-ideas/Finished-ideas/Media-...</a>
ScottWhighamalmost 13 years ago
Asking questions is a good way, but the search box here at HN is probably faster. HN has been around for years now and there's a huge number of marketing-related questions that have been asked+answered. You could spend days reading the replies and following up with each.
revoradalmost 13 years ago
There's a ton of stuff you could do, but it depends on what you've already done and who exactly you want to target.<p>One effective thing I can think of - Ask @pud nicely if he'd put an ad on fandalism.com
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