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When something that was working, suddenly doesn't work when demoing to others

52 pointsby atarian9 months ago

22 comments

flerchin9 months ago
This is part of a constellation of symptoms that I attribute to the Senior Engineer Field Effect. Other symptoms may include being unable to demonstrate misbehavior, losing the requirements out of your head, and solving a bug that has been bugging you for hours.<p>All by the mere proximity of a Senior Engineer.
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dinkblam9 months ago
&gt; The phenomenon that something which was previously working correctly, suddenly does not work correctly when one tries to demonstrate the operation to others.<p>the same word is also used for the reverse situation, i.e. if something that did not work suddenly works when trying to demonstrate the failure.<p>think bug reporting e.g. at the car mechanic, warranty claims, etc. if you try to show a reproducible bug to others, it suddenly vanishes...
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khazhoux9 months ago
What&#x27;s the word for this:<p>* My code doesn&#x27;t work and I can&#x27;t find the bug even after over an hour<p>* I add a few lines of &lt;whatever code&gt;. <i>Now it works!</i><p>* Now, just for comparison, I <i>remove</i> all the code I just added (or, at least I think I reverted back to previous state). <i>But now it still works.</i><p>???
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rendall9 months ago
The English-language term &quot;demo effect&quot; means the same thing.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;quentin.delcourt.be&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2020-01-22_demo-effect&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;quentin.delcourt.be&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2020-01-22_demo-effect&#x2F;</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.urbandictionary.com&#x2F;define.php?term=demo%20effect" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.urbandictionary.com&#x2F;define.php?term=demo%20effec...</a>
knoke9 months ago
One should note: In contrast to other such composites, this is often used in everyday life.
AdmiralAsshat9 months ago
What&#x27;s the equivalent word for &quot;Your computer suddenly becomes slow and unresponsive, you try to open Task Manager (or run `top` in a terminal) to see what&#x27;s bogging down your resources, but the resource monitor itself refuses to respond for a few seconds until the lag vanishes, at which point the utility finally renders and everything under the CPU&#x2F;Memory utilization appears normal&quot; ?
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adityaathalye9 months ago
I wrote this prayer to appease the Demo Gods [1]. Though one might pray, the demo can fail.<p>O Lambda the Ultimate, bless we who are in this demo...<p><pre><code> That our core be functional, and our functions be pure. That our data be immutable, so we may know the value of values. That our systems be composable, so they may scale with grace. That their States only mutate in pleasantly surprising ways. That the networks and servers stay up. Well, at least through this demo. For otherwise, nothing lives, nothing evolves. In the name of the \alpha and the \beta and the \eta... \(\lambda x.x x\) \(\lambda x.x x\) ; eternally </code></pre> [1] Slide no. 5 here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;adityaathalye&#x2F;slideware&#x2F;blob&#x2F;master&#x2F;n-ways-to-fizz-buzz-clj.pdf">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;adityaathalye&#x2F;slideware&#x2F;blob&#x2F;master&#x2F;n-way...</a><p>(edit: formatting)
hateful9 months ago
A related thing that happens a lot is when the demo is way slower than it was when you were testing it. But at least this one can be explained by screen sharing applications adding latency to your refresh rate. It really is slower when you share your screen!
aa-jv9 months ago
Whats the antipode to this, where, as a programmer going to investigate a user bug, my mere presences makes the bug disappear, and the user frustrated at trying to reproduce it for me?<p>Because this happens a lot to me these days, no kidding. The bug happens, some user delights in calling me over, I take a look, they simply can&#x27;t reproduce it, I walk away - they get the bug again - and, yeah, I kind of have to race ahead of things to understand the nature of the users situation.<p>Happen to anyone else? I don&#x27;t think its quite like Vorführeffekt, and is maybe a bit more like Daseinsvermögung oder etwas ..
LeifCarrotson9 months ago
It&#x27;s fascinating to me how German composite words encapsulate an idea like &quot;[failure attributed to] demonstration effect&quot; in a way that just saying &quot;demonstration effect&quot; in English often fails to accomplish.<p>I also love how German often has useful opposites - schadenfreude vs fremdschamen, for example.<p>On that note, is there an opposite to this, where someone observes that something&#x27;s not working, they call in the expert to diagnose the problem, and it functions perfectly under demonstration?
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ChrisMarshallNY9 months ago
AKA &quot;The Wrath of the Demo Gods.&quot;<p>Now, I have a word for it...
iambateman9 months ago
I believe the English translation for this is “uhhhh”
bobthepanda9 months ago
For presentations, always have a backup video.
netcoyote9 months ago
In my company we call these &quot;Show &amp; Fail&quot;.<p>They often occur because we&#x27;ll say &quot;I just want to fix this one thing before we build the demo&quot;. We call this type of commit to the source control system a &quot;break-in&quot; instead of a &quot;check-in&quot;.
rpnx9 months ago
Back in university, my compsci security project didn&#x27;t work on the university wifi for some reason, if we used google chrome. Firefox worked fine. Some kind of weird proxy broke the website. But to this day I don&#x27;t know exactly what happened.
breadwinner9 months ago
Previous discussion: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=21170732">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=21170732</a>
colechristensen9 months ago
I don&#x27;t think this one is going to make it into English. Vorführeffekt is a bit hard to pronounce.
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satisfice9 months ago
I call it Singing Frog syndrome.
happytoexplain9 months ago
I&#x27;d have more use of a term with the inverse meaning.
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MattPalmer10869 months ago
I always heard this called &quot;The Law of Demo&quot;.<p>Definitely a thing!
mrcode0079 months ago
What would it translate to? Inspection effect?<p>Edit: demo effect?
daft_pink9 months ago
Was this word invented by google