<i>What is that SNL sketch? The famous "Point, Counter-Point" 1979 sketch starring Dan Aykroyd and Jane Curtin. The one where Dan Aykroyd says the phrase, "Jane, you ignorant slut."</i><p>I actually burst out laughing when I got to this part.<p>These people need a serious talking-to. It's clear they have no idea what the sketch was about, and that it was actually deeply and brilliantly anti-sexist to its core. Let alone the of climate of the time, or how their reaction might be received by the great Jane Curtin.<p>There's also this concept of "irony", but that may a bit too far out for them at this point.
The most ironic thing thing is that Python, is named after Monty Python, which was quite controversial in it's time. For example, Monty Python The Life of Brian makes fun of both Christianity and LGBTQ folks.<p><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgp9MPLEAqA" rel="nofollow">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgp9MPLEAqA</a><p>Best to kick out Guido since he clearly enjoys "problematic" content. Also, they must swiftly rename Python to "Grey Box Lang" or something totally inoffensive.<p>The most offensive thing is the PSF's power grab vote so they can fire Python Fellows behind closed doors, which previously required the community to vote. This board is out of control and has to go.<p>Also, if the board can muzzle a giant in the Python community with such vague and wispy allegations, they will have no problem silencing anyone else. This dispute should have been handled by a third party, rather than relying on inexperienced volunteers who are hopelessly too involved to be impartial.
This is an interesting story but this article looks really poorly written/biased. It didn't until the QA at the end clarify that this was a 3 month suspension. It instead started with "bans" in the title, walks back to "suspended" in the first line, and then didn't clarify that point until effectively the appendix to "3 month suspension".<p>Little tricks like this make me lose faith in the objectivity of an article. Then there's the cherry picking of reasons, general tone, which makes this feel more like rage bait than an article meant to inform.<p>I would love to read an unbiased article on this.<p>Edit: here's the source suspension announcement, which has lots of comments: <a href="https://discuss.python.org/t/three-month-suspension-for-a-core-developer/60250" rel="nofollow">https://discuss.python.org/t/three-month-suspension-for-a-co...</a><p>And a less ragebait-y albeit much longer critical write-up from another developer: <a href="https://chrismcdonough.substack.com/p/the-shameful-defenestration-of-tim" rel="nofollow">https://chrismcdonough.substack.com/p/the-shameful-defenestr...</a>
I encourage people to read the primary sources before coming to a conclusion on the validity of this suspension.<p>While Lunduke has done good work, he's alienated a lot of people in recent times (for good reason, in my opinion). He is a great source if you're looking for a quick hit of tech-adjacent social justice ragebait. He is an awful source if you are looking for a neutral account of the facts.
It is unjustified authority for the board to state we can do what we want because of information we must keep secret, and you just have to trust us.<p><a href="https://discuss.python.org/t/three-month-suspension-for-a-core-developer/60250/11" rel="nofollow">https://discuss.python.org/t/three-month-suspension-for-a-co...</a>
Just want to say that as someone that has volunteered for an organization for over a decade. It’s generally their loss and his gain. Honestly, once you get older and are very involved and are very experienced, it’s just an hinderance to your employer and you’re giving up tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to work for free.<p>Meanwhile, they will lose out on his hardwork and inventiveness. I don’t think this should have been flagged though. People should be honest and cover what is happening.
HN post (not flagged) with a better article is here:<p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41212788">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41212788</a>
All CoCs are weapons and used all the time to harm the project they were forced upon. "Python Software Foundation's Code of Conduct Working Group" just wow. And the person who did this is <i>exactly</i> the kind of person we all expect
I thought Lunduke was a comedy bit like somebody yelling “Look what le fasciste wokisme mob has done to…” <i>spins giant wheel</i> “uh… open source development?” but then every time his blog gets posted several people respond with a version of “I read the headline and now I’m just as upset about this as the author”