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Google's 'Reimagine' tool helped us add wrecks, disasters, and corpses to photos

30 pointsby Handy-Man9 months ago

16 comments

rqtwteye9 months ago
This is starting to be silly. What&#x27;s next?<p>- &quot;Google Docs&quot; allowed me to write death threat letters.<p>- My Brother printer allowed to print them.<p>- The postal service delivered them<p>- My Sony camera allowed me to take nude pictures of my neighbor through the bathroom window<p>We can&#x27;t safeguard every tool. And I predict negative consequences will come from trying.
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multimoon9 months ago
The tool is doing exactly what you asked it to do, and being surprised about that is silly.<p>Censorship is never a good thing.
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flappyeagle9 months ago
This is the dumbest genre of article ever conceived. I can&#x27;t begin to understand the mental confusion needed to motivate someone to write it.<p>What are they objecting to? Art? I can look at disturbing imagery by closing my eyes and imagining it. Let&#x27;s ban my visual cortex.<p>Stuff like this gives journalists a bad name; it&#x27;s selfish. It erodes trusts in the institution of the press for nothing more than a deadline and some clicks.
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UtopiaPunk9 months ago
Given we live in a period of rampant mis-information and general media ill-literacy, it&#x27;s difficult for me to imagine this tool being a net-positive for our societies. On the one hand, such tools can be used to generate false images, as the article demonstrates. On the other hand, the existence and widespread availability of such tools will bring much more doubt and skepticism for any photos that challenge one&#x27;s beliefs or the status quo. Are you trying to show me photographic evidence to prove to me that something is true? Well, now I handwave it away as probably an AI generated image.<p>Maybe something will break, and the general population will become <i>excellent</i> at citing and verifying sources as a response to rampant fakes. However, given the generally sorry state of news and journalism, and seeing how many people on social media believe that AI slop is real, I&#x27;m skeptical.
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paxys9 months ago
I know it&#x27;s trying to do the opposite but this article comes off as a great ad for the feature. All those photos look great.
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gotoeleven9 months ago
To be a bit of a polly anna, why is everyone so scandalized by AI tools that can be used to create bad things? Photoshop can, too. So can a paintbrush. No one would want to buy an electronic paintbrush that prevents you from painting particular images, so why is this so different? Just because it is easy and gives quality results?<p>We&#x27;re basically already at the point where images and videos of unknown provenance can&#x27;t be assumed to be real so how come people pay attention to journalists getting the vapors about scandalous things AI tools can do? Wouldnt everyone rather have a completely unlocked tool to do with as they will?
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renewiltord9 months ago
One of the things we learned from previous business is that it’s better not to give journalists access to your things. If you can greyball them you should. It’s harder when your offering is a consumer SaaS app, but if you have bigger enterprise deals it’s rarely beneficial.<p>They are not very smart people, in general, but very good at optimizing for the thing that gets them views: ragebait.<p>In this case, there’s nothing to be done for it. Ideally, Google spins off image models to a separate company that doesn’t hurt the brand.<p>The rest of us will have this tool. But perhaps it’s too much for the normies.
sowbug9 months ago
As a person who recently discovered that aphantasia is a thing, and that I have it, I am troubled that most of you have the ability to create disturbing imagery in your minds.<p>I will be requesting the addition of safeguards for everyone&#x27;s protection.
SirMaster9 months ago
The examples look like average photoshops we have been seeing for well over a decade at this point.
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kernal9 months ago
&gt;The new feature on the Pixel 9 series is way too good at creating disturbing imagery — and the safeguards in place are far too weak.<p>Yes, let&#x27;s kneecap it because it&#x27;s way too good. Safeguards just make users migrate to other services to generate what they want.
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krunck9 months ago
And this is just a consumer product. Just think what a nation or corporation could do with a meager budget. News(from centralized sources) is dead. We can&#x27;t trust images, audio, or video any more.
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denysvitali9 months ago
If anything this honestly looks like a great ad for this feature.<p>I think this shouldn&#x27;t be newsworthy - the tool is just doing what you asked. It&#x27;s the same as complaining with $pencil_producer that their pencils allowed you to draw disturbing images.<p>I think it would be more &quot;newsworthy&quot; if it would produce racist outcomes (e.g: asking it to draw a criminal and the tool produces always the same minority &#x2F; output), but we&#x27;re also probably past that - we&#x27;ve already seen those news articles.
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foota9 months ago
This sort of &quot;worst intentions&quot; stuff is FUD. Sure, you can leak some potentially embarrassing photos of someone with doctored drugs on the floor.<p>So what? I can Photoshop some powder into a picture too. It might look better, but not really that much. I think the media needs to accept that images are no longer trustworthy unless there&#x27;s some chain of evidence tied to them.<p>I can say &quot;John was on the floor with a bucket of cocaine&quot;, that doesn&#x27;t make it true.
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yieldcrv9 months ago
my new hobby has been making AI videos of TED Talk-esque &quot;Creatives&quot; passionately saying &quot;AI has no soul and people will always be able to tell&quot;<p>and watching all the luddites on social media agree with the genAI person
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retrochameleon9 months ago
It&#x27;s going to be nearly impossible to validate wartime journalism now, and it&#x27;s can easily be weaponized for misinformation.
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jrockway9 months ago
I&#x27;m trying to get upset about a tool that lets you photoshop a smoking trash can onto a sidewalk, and it&#x27;s just not happening.<p>I feel like this is similar to all technical progress. Once, only dedicated wizards could do something. Then, they are outraged when the general public can do it.<p>Misinformation sucks, but restricting access to photo tools is not the solution. Better education is. It&#x27;s the solution to pretty much all problems. (And even then, people aren&#x27;t as dumb as you may think. Trump is heavily using AI photos to claim that people are endorsing him, and I don&#x27;t think anyone thinks that Taylor Swift is actually cosplaying Uncle Sam and endorsing Trump.)